Top Gun

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Famous Graham

26,553 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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ZR1cliff said:
shalmaneser said:
ZR1cliff said:
andrewws said:
This film has one of the best opening sequences you will ever see, downhill from there I'm afraid. I'll be your wingman anytime, yuk....
One of the best opening scenes even if it only lasts a few minutes, the rest of the film is BS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEvPoN8xIu0
Noooooo!

one of the best films, evaaaaaaa!

Just revel in it's hilarious campness - it's great!
I tried, I tried but found myself cringing at every other scene.

Shame really as TC can be an excellent actor when he's not posing - cue good films like 'A few good men'
Somewhat further down his career, though, to be fair. A comparable movie would be Risky Business. Again,utterly cringeworthy biggrin

Eric Mc

122,095 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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As far as I know, very few Folland Midges were ever built - it might only have been the one.

The original single seat fighter version of the Gnat evolved from the Midge. The two seat trainer Gnat T1 evolved from the Gnat F1. In the 1970s, the Indians built a "Super Gnat" called the Ajeet.

Silent_Assassin

181 posts

185 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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welshbikerduck said:
Mr Trophy said:
I heard there was a Top Gun 2 coming out?
What's it about?
A helicopter on a turntable on a ship.....

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

231 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Eric Mc said:
the Indians built a "Super Gnat" called the Ajeet.
And the Irish built one called the Eeejit.

Eric Mc

122,095 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Sciroccology said:
Eric Mc said:
the Indians built a "Super Gnat" called the Ajeet.
And the Irish built one called the Eeejit.
Fairly obvious as I thought of that too but declined the urge.

The Irish, of course, never used Gnats but there is an Irish Connection to the Gnat story.

When the RAF No.4 Flight Training School at Valley in North Wales re-equipped with Gnats around 1964 os so, they had a special one-off Gnat simulator delivered. The simulator was contained in its own "caravan" trailer type device and was to be parked on the airfield. What no one had checked was whether the truck and trailer would fit across the Menai Bridge. Needless to say, when they arrived at the bridge it was discovered that it was too wide.
After a lot of head scratching, it was decided to take the vehicle to Liverpool, pop it on the Dublin ferry, cross to Dublin and then put the whole contraption on to the Dun laoghaire - Holyhead ferry. It was then a short four mile hop from Holyhead to Valley.
Of couse, at the time, no news of this "solution" was ever leaked to the media because neither the British or Irish governments wanted anyone to know of this "collusion".

Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 23 February 08:30

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Jasandjules said:
Soundtrack is good, but it irritates me using F5s as Mig 21s.
Not too many MiG 21s were available to use in films in 1986.
Pendant mode


holy cow ..............Eric MC makes a mistake !!!

yikesyikesyikes

In the Film the quote was about Mig 28's not Mig 21's
""In the 1986 movie Top Gun, Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell (Tom Cruise) squared off against MiG-28""


Here is a Mig 21 from 1959 -


and a Northrop F-5 as used as the Mig 28's



normal service will be resumed ........when Eric has had a cup of tea !!!


Edited by DBSV8 on Monday 23 February 08:36

Eric Mc

122,095 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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DBSV8 said:
Eric Mc said:
Jasandjules said:
Soundtrack is good, but it irritates me using F5s as Mig 21s.
Not too many MiG 21s were available to use in films in 1986.
Pendant mode


holy cow ..............Eric MC makes a mistake !!!

yikesyikesyikes

In the Film the quote was about Mig 28's not Mig 21's
""In the 1986 movie Top Gun, Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell (Tom Cruise) squared off against MiG-28""


Here is a Mig 21 from 1959 -


and a Northrop F-5 as used as the Mig 28's



normal service will be resumed ........when Eric has had a cup of tea !!!


Edited by DBSV8 on Monday 23 February 08:36
I'm not a huge fan of Top Gun so I was basing my assumption on what MiGs they used on previous comments and my own hazy recollection of sitting through the movie at the old cinema in Camberley 23 years ago. OK, to put it more correctly, there were very few MiGs of ANY sort available for film use in 1986 - especially MiG 28s since they never existed.

Using the Northrop was a good solution as the USAF used F-5Es as "surrogate" MiGs in the aggressor squadrons. There was a unit of these F-5s fully painted in Soviet colours based at Alconbury in Suffolk. They got into trouble for performing mock attacks on Air Anglia F-27s on their way into Norwich airport. Must have been good fun for the passengers.

dirty boy

14,705 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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I watched the opening scene then turned off, but only because I was tired.

I think it's a great film.

23 years old and we're still quoting it.

williamp

19,271 posts

274 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Can you tell me where it is/ We're on our honeymoon there in August and I'd love to go....

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

249 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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I wish they'd release the film as per the original script, which somebody posted a link to the last time this thread started.

The script is really funny, and makes the loss of Goose felt much more.

maggit

DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Its a great film smile

I remember one morning at work where we basically decided to pseudo knock up a flight control system for the F5 just so it could deliberately flummox the F14 smile Even more amusing when the F14 DFCS guys came up from the floor below and joined in the discussion.

cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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williamp said:
cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Can you tell me where it is/ We're on our honeymoon there in August and I'd love to go....
Sorry, must be 15 years since I was there.
It's a pretty well known tourist trap though so just about any taxi should know how to get you there.
You will be dissapointed though cos even though they used the exterior in the film, the interior was a set (or at least looks nothing like).


Chainguy

4,381 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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cazzer said:
williamp said:
cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Can you tell me where it is/ We're on our honeymoon there in August and I'd love to go....
Sorry, must be 15 years since I was there.
It's a pretty well known tourist trap though so just about any taxi should know how to get you there.
You will be dissapointed though cos even though they used the exterior in the film, the interior was a set (or at least looks nothing like).
yes Interior was a studio set. When I was in that bar though, mid 90's, they had tried to make it look a bit like the movie version. Was feckin' expensive as well.

cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Chainguy said:
cazzer said:
williamp said:
cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Can you tell me where it is/ We're on our honeymoon there in August and I'd love to go....
Sorry, must be 15 years since I was there.
It's a pretty well known tourist trap though so just about any taxi should know how to get you there.
You will be dissapointed though cos even though they used the exterior in the film, the interior was a set (or at least looks nothing like).
yes Interior was a studio set. When I was in that bar though, mid 90's, they had tried to make it look a bit like the movie version. Was feckin' expensive as well.
I'll also add that if you go to Tihuana don't, and I really mean this, don't drink the water. Or have anything with ice in it. Better still, don't go. It's stty and smells.

emicen

8,599 posts

219 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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"They must be close, I'm getting a hard on"

Duno why I had never picked up on that line before but it actually had me laughing out loud last night rofl

Chainguy

4,381 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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cazzer said:
Chainguy said:
cazzer said:
williamp said:
cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Can you tell me where it is/ We're on our honeymoon there in August and I'd love to go....
Sorry, must be 15 years since I was there.
It's a pretty well known tourist trap though so just about any taxi should know how to get you there.
You will be dissapointed though cos even though they used the exterior in the film, the interior was a set (or at least looks nothing like).
yes Interior was a studio set. When I was in that bar though, mid 90's, they had tried to make it look a bit like the movie version. Was feckin' expensive as well.
I'll also add that if you go to Tihuana don't, and I really mean this, don't drink the water. Or have anything with ice in it. Better still, don't go. It's stty and smells.
We never made it down that far. Meant to, just never really got around to it.

San Diego was great fun though, one of the few places I went on Her Maj's ticket that I'd pay to go back to from my own pocket.

SleeperCell

5,591 posts

243 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Jasandjules said:
Eric Mc said:
Jasandjules said:
Soundtrack is good, but it irritates me using F5s as Mig 21s.
Not too many MiG 21s were available to use in films in 1986.
No I know, but still..... A plane called the Freedom Fighter instead?
Actually they were F-5Es so have the nickname of Tiger instead of Freedom Fighter.

Also the Americans did actually have quite a few MiGs at that time, but it was all supposed to be secret so they couldn't exactly show them on film.

They could probably have used IAI Kfirs as well (Mirage airframe hotrodded with a Phantom J79 engine by the Israelis). Mirages are perfectly plausible aircraft for a 'rouge state' to operate and the US also openly operated them as agressor aircraft for a while in the mid 80s, perhaps a bit late for Topgun but they did make it into the awful movie Iron Eagle, (although they were actually all Israeli aircraft since the USAF refused to cooperate on a script involving stolen aircraft wobble).

Eric Mc

122,095 posts

266 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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I always preferred the movie "The Final Countdown". Lots of Tomcats and other US Navy aircraft in that as well - and it was shot in 1978/79 before the US Navy removed all the really colourful markings from their carrier borne aircraft - so all the planes look better too.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Why couldn't they just use F5's as F5's? Perhaps with some explanation of how the bad guys made a hotted up version after the revolution.

Come to that, the only people operating F14's now are the Iranians, can you imagine their remake?

Hard-Drive

4,090 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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cazzer said:
Forgot to mention I've been in the Bar in San Diego smile
As you were. smile
Ah well I've flown down Mission Beach at 500 feet (ish...) and over Viper's house!!! In a PA28 rather than an F14 but still cool!

Which is the bar by the way?