Bladerunner

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chad valley

45 posts

134 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Blade Runner is in my opinion a very good film. I've watched it many times but like other good films it has become a victim of hype. How can any film live up to it's legend? Anyone having been exposed to the hype and watching it for the first time now is bound to be disappointed.

southendpier

5,254 posts

229 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Blade Runner 2 -

Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford - "it's on the charts"

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/sep/25/ridley...

"Scott, who is currently promoting his forthcoming biblical epic Exodus: Gods and Kings, also confirmed that he had met with Harrison Ford to discuss plans for a long-mooted sequel to 1982’s Blade Runner – though he noted that the actor is currently busy with Star Wars: Episode VII.

“It’s on the charts,” said Scott. “I can’t say when that would be yet, because of his thing with Star Wars. It’s a sequel – it’s what happens next. It’s quite surprisingly clever.”

Halmyre

11,185 posts

139 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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The trouble with anticipating Blade Runner 2 is that you're hoping for Godfather 2 but end up with Highlander 2.

Leave Deckard and Rachael in peace.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Zhora = great bangers smile

SWoll

18,341 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Halmyre said:
The trouble with anticipating Blade Runner 2 is that you're hoping for Godfather 2 but end up with Highlander 2.

Leave Deckard and Rachael in peace.
And let's be honest, it's been quite a while since Ridley has made a decent film...

Or Harrison Ford for that matter...

Crook

6,741 posts

224 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SWoll said:
And let's be honest, it's been quite a while since Ridley has made a decent film...

Or Harrison Ford for that matter...
Sad but unfortunately very true.

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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bashful said:
papercup said:
I read that Scott deliberately coloured in Ford's eyes in the Final Cut to remove any question of him not being a replicant. So they glow the same as the Owl's did near the beginning of the film. That annoyed me slightly, it being reminiscent of Lucas' continued infernal tweaking of A New Hope (among others...).
...because if replicants' eyes just glowed, why bother with the whole Voigt-Kampf test procedure?
And if he's a replicant, how come he is so cack at fighting?

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Had I never, ever watched a sequel or a reboot in my life I believe I would have missed one good film.

So I am simply not going to watch this undoubted pile o' ste.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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SWoll said:
Halmyre said:
The trouble with anticipating Blade Runner 2 is that you're hoping for Godfather 2 but end up with Highlander 2.

Leave Deckard and Rachael in peace.
And let's be honest, it's been quite a while since Ridley has made a decent film...

Or Harrison Ford for that matter...
That last Indiana Jones film was actually an insult. It was a personal slur against anyone stupid enough to watch that POS. Not sure I'll watch BR2.

strummerville

1,015 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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"Money, money, money..!" Mind you, I hold no great hope out for Mad Max 4 either.

Halmyre

11,185 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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9mm said:
bashful said:
papercup said:
I read that Scott deliberately coloured in Ford's eyes in the Final Cut to remove any question of him not being a replicant. So they glow the same as the Owl's did near the beginning of the film. That annoyed me slightly, it being reminiscent of Lucas' continued infernal tweaking of A New Hope (among others...).
...because if replicants' eyes just glowed, why bother with the whole Voigt-Kampf test procedure?
And if he's a replicant, how come he is so cack at fighting?
I put the glowing eyes thing down to the director using it as a filmic device to convey information to the viewer - there's probably a technical term for it.

The cack at fighting thing - maybe Deckard's like Rachael, a new type of replicant who doesn't know they're a replicant, and don't have the 'upgrades' that Batty and co. possess.

Apparently Philip K Dick thought that the idea of Deckard being a replicant undermined Batty's final gesture in saving Deckard's life, although if Batty doesn't *know* Deckard's a replicant then surely that doesn't matter?

Maybe we shouldn't over-think it.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I think it is good, if it remains unknown.

If Deckard was a replicant, then he was a prototype who had the memories, and was not given super-human abilities, save perhaps for his awesome sleuthing skills and pure doggedness of his loyalty to his duty.

The documentary that was paried with Blade Runner a few weeks ago was brilliant. It was one of the last (if not the last) big set sci-fi films. They don't make sci-fi like that now, sadly.

P-Jay

10,563 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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southendpier said:
Blade Runner 2 -

Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford - "it's on the charts"

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/sep/25/ridley...

"Scott, who is currently promoting his forthcoming biblical epic Exodus: Gods and Kings, also confirmed that he had met with Harrison Ford to discuss plans for a long-mooted sequel to 1982’s Blade Runner – though he noted that the actor is currently busy with Star Wars: Episode VII.

“It’s on the charts,” said Scott. “I can’t say when that would be yet, because of his thing with Star Wars. It’s a sequel – it’s what happens next. It’s quite surprisingly clever.”
If he's in Star Wars 8 & 9 it'll keep him busy until 2019, maybe 2020 I'd guess when he'll be 78 years old - I know they aged him for the original - but even if he's still in shape for an action film - he's going to be a pretty old looking Replicant!

Halmyre

11,185 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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P-Jay said:
southendpier said:
Blade Runner 2 -

Ridley Scott and Harrison Ford - "it's on the charts"

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/sep/25/ridley...

"Scott, who is currently promoting his forthcoming biblical epic Exodus: Gods and Kings, also confirmed that he had met with Harrison Ford to discuss plans for a long-mooted sequel to 1982’s Blade Runner – though he noted that the actor is currently busy with Star Wars: Episode VII.

“It’s on the charts,” said Scott. “I can’t say when that would be yet, because of his thing with Star Wars. It’s a sequel – it’s what happens next. It’s quite surprisingly clever.”
If he's in Star Wars 8 & 9 it'll keep him busy until 2019, maybe 2020 I'd guess when he'll be 78 years old - I know they aged him for the original - but even if he's still in shape for an action film - he's going to be a pretty old looking Replicant!
They could write that into the script - replicants suffering from accelerated ageing as their time runs out. It's alluded to in the film when Sebastian tells Pris and Batty "there's some of me in you" - he's ostensibly talking about his work as a genetic designer, but it could mean his actual genetic condition (Methuselah syndrome) has been spliced into their DNA. Batty doesn't show any signs of it when he dies, but in his case he could just have switched himself off or something.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Got the 'Final Cut' version on BluRay and watched this last night. I've sort of seen bits of it before, but last night was the first time I've concentrated on it.

Thought it was really good. The story is interesting and you really feel that it is a world that is lived in (clutter around, dark, dusty environments etc).

It left me with a lot of questions, so I did some reading this morning. This has left me with even more. I need to watch it again. smile

It's one of the few films I've seen that has left me wanting to see it again.

Electronicpants

2,635 posts

188 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Coincidentally I watched on YouTube the other day the Mark Kermode documentary, fascinating stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jbmGoZREns


TheExcession

11,669 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Electronicpants said:
Coincidentally I watched on YouTube the other day the Mark Kermode documentary, fascinating stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jbmGoZREns
Thanks for that I really enjoyed it, fascinating stuff as you say.

I've watched Blade Runner so many times over the years, in fact I'd read the book as an early teenager years before we had VHS to rent and watch the film.

I remember being at Glastonbury 25+ years ago. It was after dark in the Film Field watching the Director's cut, snuggled down into a sleeping bag, high as a kite in a field with a a few close friends ans a thousand like minded individuals. The atmosphere was incredible.

Afterwards walking back down through to the centre of the festival with all the crowds, lazer beams, smoke and fireworks, the dancing and music going on in all directions, all the smells and visions, it was just like I'd walked into the rest of that film - only the rain was missing.

As they say at the end of that documentary, every time you watch the film you always catch a little detail that you'd missed before.

Great stuff - thanks for that.