Luther

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droopsnoot

11,927 posts

242 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
Shame on you! Call yourself petrolheads and unable to distinguish a Jensen FF from a Jensen Interceptor? Tut!
Never mind that, why did it sound like it had a diesel engine?

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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vxr8mate said:
I don't get the Alice character at all. One minute she is all 'oh who cares about her' and the next she's all out to save her life!
She wasn't trying to save Mary's life because she cared about her, she was doing it because Luther cared about Mary and she (Alice) wants to him to be happy. How many women can you think of who would do that...and not build up an incredible resentment. Even when the baddie had the shotgun to their heads, Alice seemed resigned to die if it meant Luther would get the woman she thought he wanted.

That, more than the boots and sultry seductiveness, is what I find most appealing about "Alice".

Challo

10,129 posts

155 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Fantastic series and a shame its ended. Really good to see Alice back at the end to tie it all together.

Good use of older cars as well throughtout the 3 series.

Volvo 740, BMW E38, Jensen, Kia Magentis, Ford Scorpio, Jeep Cherokee.

Trying to think back to what Luther drove in the first series?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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droopsnoot said:
Breadvan72 said:
Shame on you! Call yourself petrolheads and unable to distinguish a Jensen FF from a Jensen Interceptor? Tut!
Never mind that, why did it sound like it had a diesel engine?
I assume a bad dubbing job, but it didn't sound like a diesel to me. It didn't sound very Mopar either.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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redtwin said:
She wasn't trying to save Mary's life because she cared about her, she was doing it because Luther cared about Mary and she (Alice) wants to him to be happy. How many women can you think of who would do that...and not build up an incredible resentment. Even when the baddie had the shotgun to their heads, Alice seemed resigned to die if it meant Luther would get the woman she thought he wanted.
I saw it a bit differently.

There are two ways to look at some of the choices Alice made. Either she was showing her softer side, in that she wanted Luther to be happy even if that meant she died (unlikely) or she put herself in harms way to endear herself to Luther and win him over. Plus she knew Luther would never let either of them die and would sacrifice himself first.

I prefer the latter. Alice is manipulative and will do anything to win, including playing mind games. I don't doubt she is infatuated by Luther, but once she has won him over there is no challenge left.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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droopsnoot said:
Breadvan72 said:
Shame on you! Call yourself petrolheads and unable to distinguish a Jensen FF from a Jensen Interceptor? Tut!
Never mind that, why did it sound like it had a diesel engine?
Agreed sounded awfully rough.

As to the finale, just a bit silly bonkers. Can't understand why he left with Alice. I assume that's the end of Luther seeing how he's left with a serial killer.

alfa phil

2,097 posts

207 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Any one know the name of the track at the end there , and artist.

AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

176 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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alfa phil said:
Any one know the name of the track at the end there , and artist.
'Never Going To Give You Up' by The Black Keys, from the Brothers album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyPBiD2rAg


An awesome track. If you like that try this one too - 'These Days':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh0cr2PF_5s

both have wonderful intros (the former taking that surprise 'up' direction after the first few bars and a lovely, old style warm ambience, and 'These Days' has a wonderful vocal and one of those 'just perfect' instrumental tracks, esp. from c. 4mins 5 secs in.

Edited by AnonSpoilSport on Thursday 25th July 20:27

alfa phil

2,097 posts

207 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Thanks for that anon, looks like, i will be buying a new album.

velocgee

511 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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The Beaver King said:
There are two ways to look at some of the choices Alice made. Either she was showing her softer side, in that she wanted Luther to be happy even if that meant she died (unlikely) or she put herself in harms way to endear herself to Luther and win him over. Plus she knew Luther would never let either of them die and would sacrifice himself first.

I prefer the latter. Alice is manipulative and will do anything to win, including playing mind games. I don't doubt she is infatuated by Luther, but once she has won him over there is no challenge left.
I think it is the former. This woman, as cold and as calculated as she is, sees Luther as a sort of equal. I think for this alone makes her 'love' him. Remember, she killed Madsen for Luther. She has always been there for him.

Goes to show that no matter how psychotic all a woman wants is to bag Mr Right laugh

The_Burg

4,846 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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The 'Alice' bit kind of ruined it. Some batty, sexy super cool woman turns up to solve everything?
Realism 0 out of 10. Not a great end to a too short series.



redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Realism is the wrong way to approach the series as a whole. Alice isn't meant to be a realistic character, think of her more as a psychopathic guardian angel.

velocgee

511 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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The_Burg said:
The 'Alice' bit kind of ruined it. Some batty, sexy super cool woman turns up to solve everything?
Luther has 'employed' her craft since the 1st series. nothing surprising there.

But realism?! oh please. if you want that go to the shops and buy a pint of milk whistle

gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Rubbish

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Big smile here when Alice returned as I thought the interplay was the highlight of series 1 and 2 suffered a bit without it.

This series was excellent throughout though and Alice was icing on the cake!

Stop now though.... Even good things end.

M

GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

164 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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marcosgt said:
Big smile here when Alice returned as I thought the interplay was the highlight of series 1 and 2 suffered a bit without it.

This series was excellent throughout though and Alice was icing on the cake!

Stop now though.... Even good things end.

M
There's talk of a film - which I'd like, but I'm really not convinced an Alice spin-off would work. It's her being enigmatic and the relationship between her and Luther that makes it fun.

More footage of her in the boots and the FF would be nice though, especially if they get the engine noise right biggrin

The_Burg

4,846 posts

214 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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GadgeS3C said:
There's talk of a film - which I'd like, but I'm really not convinced an Alice spin-off would work. It's her being enigmatic and the relationship between her and Luther that makes it fun.

More footage of her in the boots and the FF would be nice though, especially if they get the engine noise right biggrin
You mean the FF wasn't really a 1.9 VAG diesel?

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I've had this bookmarked, been recording series 3 while catching up on 1 and 2 on Netflix. Watched the lot now, and loved it. I liked the older cars in it, the Volvos (1st series was a 240 wasn't it?), oh and the Jensen. Alice is a great character, I was hoping she would come back, it did miss something in the episodes without her.

Oh and, leather, boots, Jensen... cloud9

Series 3 would be a good place to stop, but it did end with the "So now what?" line, so they could carry it on again if they wanted.

marcosgt

11,018 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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ajprice said:
Series 3 would be a good place to stop, but it did end with the "So now what?" line, so they could carry it on again if they wanted.
It looked like that was the intention, but I'd love it to just be a mystery smile

M.

onyx39

11,122 posts

150 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Brought series 1 and 2 on DVD for a tenner on Amazon, cannot believe I missed this series first time around..,really enjoying series 1..