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confucuis

1,303 posts

124 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Isn't John snow's sword valeryin(sp) steel as well?

Patrick Bateman

12,173 posts

174 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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For anyone who's seen all 4 of the leaked episodes-

Can't remember which episode it's in so just in case I'll put it in a spoiler

Is that The Mountain underneath the white sheet in Qyburn's room? I didn't quite catch what he said and I can't remember which episode it was in.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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confucuis said:
Isn't John snow's sword valeryin(sp) steel as well?
Yep, Longclaw is the House Mormont heirloom Valyrian sword.

Calza

1,992 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Patrick Bateman said:
For anyone who's seen all 4 of the leaked episodes-

Can't remember which episode it's in so just in case I'll put it in a spoiler
I don't think it was confirmed, but certainly it must have been.

Patrick Bateman

12,173 posts

174 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Calza said:
I don't think it was confirmed, but certainly it must have been.
I hadn't seen anyone mention it anywhere online. Thought it was noteworthy.

RemaL

24,973 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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MartG said:
Calza said:
Is the king / prince / whatever of Dorne in a wheelchair?
Hardly recognised Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi ( aka Alexander Siddig ) in the role - I remember him like this


really, I seen the chap and said to the wife it's Doctor Bashir. All I got was "who" She's not a trekky

Adz The Rat

14,043 posts

209 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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confucuis said:
I take it you liked it then laugh
Really liked the way Tywins brother knew what Cersei was at and told her to fk off. However Cersei really is whittling down the small council, big power play there?
Also my brother made a good point, did the dragon return because Dani killed a man instead of showing mercy?
I thought perhaps Drogon returned as he knew his mother was in great need of him and maybe in danger, perhaps the first bit of danger she has faced since she had the dragons.
But I do like your brothers theory.
When he flew off at the end, I half expected to burn some of the city.

irocfan

40,388 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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RemaL said:
MartG said:
Calza said:
Is the king / prince / whatever of Dorne in a wheelchair?
Hardly recognised Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi ( aka Alexander Siddig ) in the role - I remember him like this


really, I seen the chap and said to the wife it's Doctor Bashir. All I got was "who" She's not a trekky
wasn't he also in primeval (or whatever that servies was where Hannah Sperritt [sp] got to run around in her skiddies a lot)?

Smollet

10,535 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Adz The Rat said:
I thought perhaps Drogon returned as he knew his mother was in great need of him and maybe in danger, perhaps the first bit of danger she has faced since she had the dragons.
But I do like your brothers theory.
When he flew off at the end, I half expected to burn some of the city.
I think that's why they returned as she'd made the mistake of lopping off popular chap's napper. Never a good thing to do ime.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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TREMAiNE said:
I'm sure I've got some of that wrong, book readers, do your worst! biggrin
hehe

Calza said:
Thing is though, that was a knight she struck at? So presumably didn't have a crappy sword anyway.
Is the valerian steel really that strong that it can just shatter normal swords?!
Also ... do we know how Ned wound up with it?
The knight's sword was probably castle-forged steel, which would be what every knight would require, but who knows..fell on bad times, had to pawn it and go with a crappy sword. But, Brienne is a genuine hard hitter and with the best sword one can own (bar one), so the chances are there that it probably could smash through castle-forged steel. Not everytime, but it's nice to see.

Valyrean (sp?) is like a super hard alloy, and no-one can recreate it so they are coveted jealously. All the old (rich) families had one as a sign of prestige and wealth. As said, it was a huge family embarrassment that the Lannisters didn't have one. So as soon as Rob was dead, it was a no brainer to take, Ice.
Other Valreryan steel weapons mentioned on show...LOngclaw, the dagger used to assassinate Bran Stark.
I took a look at metals in wiki, I reckon it'd be like using a Ultra-high-carbon steel blade against a stainless steel blade...though I'm no metallurgy expert. biggrin

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Longclaw is the House Mormont sword that Jon Snow now has.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Longclaw is the House Mormont sword that Jon Snow now has.
Yeah, that and the dagger are the only other two ones I think we have seen in the show.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Sorry thought you were saying Longclaw was the dagger.

Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Yeah, just poor wording on my pat. biggrin


And I also thought for a moment...that Drogon was gonna take Danni's head off. biggrin

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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I'm only watching leaked episodes in sync with the series (so S05Ep02), but am starting to feel that Brienne was a waste of Jamies sword, especially with Tywin dead. She's like a straight A* high school student who chose Art as her degree and is now regretting it with a job that barely matters and she doesn't even want anymore. Has it been mentioned in the books at this stage what happened to Geoffrey's (shorter?) sword?

glazbagun

14,276 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Halb said:
The knight's sword was probably castle-forged steel, which would be what every knight would require, but who knows..fell on bad times, had to pawn it and go with a crappy sword. But, Brienne is a genuine hard hitter and with the best sword one can own (bar one), so the chances are there that it probably could smash through castle-forged steel. Not everytime, but it's nice to see.
Is there a better sword than a Valaryan blade? The Morningstar? I've only read the first book but was of the impression that it was a badass blade due to it's origins and probably abnormal composition making it above normal steel, but Valaryan steel has always seemed the sharpest/strongest ever seen from what I've read.

irocfan

40,388 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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has George RR taken inspiration from Toledo Steel for his Valerian blades?

blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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glazbagun said:
I'm only watching leaked episodes in sync with the series (so S05Ep02), but am starting to feel that Brienne was a waste of Jamies sword, especially with Tywin dead. She's like a straight A* high school student who chose Art as her degree and is now regretting it with a job that barely matters and she doesn't even want anymore. Has it been mentioned in the books at this stage what happened to Geoffrey's (shorter?) sword?
I have to say that I disagree, I think she may be a little without purpose at the moment but she is very good with the sword and will push on to keep her oath. You wouldn't want to have to fight her, and she sees straight through Littlefinger unlike the permanently gullible Sansa

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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blueg33 said:
glazbagun said:
I'm only watching leaked episodes in sync with the series (so S05Ep02), but am starting to feel that Brienne was a waste of Jamies sword, especially with Tywin dead. She's like a straight A* high school student who chose Art as her degree and is now regretting it with a job that barely matters and she doesn't even want anymore. Has it been mentioned in the books at this stage what happened to Geoffrey's (shorter?) sword?
I have to say that I disagree, I think she may be a little without purpose at the moment but she is very good with the sword and will push on to keep her oath. You wouldn't want to have to fight her, and she sees straight through Littlefinger unlike the permanently gullible Sansa
Sansa is the only character I find annoying, when watching through old episodes, I find I always end up fast forwarding through he scenes...

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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chris watton said:
blueg33 said:
glazbagun said:
I'm only watching leaked episodes in sync with the series (so S05Ep02), but am starting to feel that Brienne was a waste of Jamies sword, especially with Tywin dead. She's like a straight A* high school student who chose Art as her degree and is now regretting it with a job that barely matters and she doesn't even want anymore. Has it been mentioned in the books at this stage what happened to Geoffrey's (shorter?) sword?
I have to say that I disagree, I think she may be a little without purpose at the moment but she is very good with the sword and will push on to keep her oath. You wouldn't want to have to fight her, and she sees straight through Littlefinger unlike the permanently gullible Sansa
Sansa is the only character I find annoying, when watching through old episodes, I find I always end up fast forwarding through he scenes...
Agreed - she's always a complete wet blanket - I had hoped for her to MTFU as she showed signs of that after Lysa (Bitty) Arryn was killed at the Eyrie, but she's revert to type again now.
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