Game of Thrones - No spoilers

[Tony Starks]

ali_kat said:

They were slaughtered. I don't recall that the Wildlings were raised by the Night King at that point, those coming through the gates & that we saw the Wildlings fighting were skeletons/rotted bodies, not fresh dead. Nor were they wearing the white/black 'camo' clothing that the wildlings were wearing.

The Night King raised all of them at the end of the fight, as the boat left. Hence the scale of the army.

Ah that makes sense, just strange how it went quiet.

[blueg33]

Valyrian Steel, according to Wikki

Blades known to still exist:

Heartsbane, the ancestral two-handed greatsword of House Tarly, currently in the possession of Lord Randyll Tarly.
Lady Forlorn, the ancestral sword of House Corbray, currently in the possession of Ser Lyn Corbray.
Longclaw, the ancestral Valyrian steel bd sword of House Mormont. Currently in the possession of Jon Snow.
Nightfall, the ancestral blade of House Harlaw and currently wielded by Ser Harras Harlaw.
Oathkeeper, one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. The blade was made for Ser Jaime Lannister, but he has given it to Brienne of Tarth for use in her quest to locate Sansa Stark. The blade was given its name, Oathkeeper, at that time.
Red Rain, the sword of House Drumm, which was stolen by them in a raid.[7] Given the name and coloring, possibly the ancestral sword of House Reyne.
Widow's Wail, one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. Following Joffrey Baratheon's death, ownership of Widow's Wail has presumably passed to his younger brother, Tommen.
The dagger with dragonbone hilt wielded by Bran Stark's failed assassin, and currently in the possession of Petyr Baelish.
Valyrian steel arakh owned by Caggo.[8]
Valyrian steel axe reputedly possessed by House Celtigar.[9]

Blades with known fates:

Ice, the ancestral two-handed greatsword of House Stark. Following Eddard Stark's execution in King's Landing, it is reforged into two longswords (Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper).

Blades with unknown fates:

Blackfyre, the sword of Aegon I Targaryen. Carried by all Targaryen kings until Aegon IV, who gave it to his bd Daemon, who rose in rebellion against the Targaryens, taking the sword's name for his house. Its whereabouts are currently unknown.
Brightroar, the ancestral sword of House Lannister, lost when King Tommen II Lannister of the Rock sailed to Valyria and never returned.
Dark Sister, the sword wielded by Visenya Targaryen. Its last known owner was Bryden "Bloodraven" Rivers.
Lamentation, the ancestral sword of House Royce, lost in the Storming of the Dragonpit.[10]
Orphan-Maker, the ancestral sword of House Roxton. Its last known owner was Ser Jon Roxton.[11]
Truth, a Valyrian steel sword last carried by Moredo Rogare of Lys.[12]
Vigilance, the ancestral sword of House Hightower. Its last known owner was Lord Ormund Hightower.[11]

[Asterix]

ali_kat said:

Halb said:

I'd bet money on a particular death happening....a certain name being wiped off a certain list...though I don't think that that is the 'break the internet' moment.

Please tell me you have worked it out!?

Btw I think this should be in the book thread

Who from Ayra's list hasn't been whacked yet? I'm assuming that's the list mentioned..?

[JagLover]

A great episode all the way through, not just the end 30 minutes or so.

I found the first six episodes of this season to be average to down right awful (most Dorne scenes). Episode 7 was allot better and last night's was one of the great GOT episodes.

More like that for the last two please!

[Halb]

Asterix said:

Who from Ayra's list hasn't been whacked yet? I'm assuming that's the list mentioned..?

Meryn 'fking' Trant.
Cercei
Mountain
Red Woman
Tywin Lannister
I had to look.

[BJG1]

Halb said:

Tywin Lannister

Has definitely been whacked.

[ali_kat]

Halb said:

I don't recall it being mentioned they had one, the Baratheons weren't the top family from Storm's End way back.
In the show there has been four blades mentioned. LOngclaw, Littlefinger's dagger, Brienne's sword, Joffrey'sTommen's sword.
I also recall from the books that Sam's dad had one, Heartsbane.
Seems in the books, Tyrion mentioned there are 200 blades on the continent.
THis article reckons though that dragonglass and VS won't matter. The Thenn mentioned that dragonglass is abundant north of the wall.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/06/white-...

Tyrion said “Valyrian steel blades were scarce and costly, yet thousands remained in the world, perhaps two hundred in the Seven Kingdoms alone.”

Trying very hard to answer the question & avoid spoilers, so I've edited the Wiki details below

Blades we know of from the books
•Ice, the ancestral two handed greatsword of House Stark - now melted & used by Brienne “Oath Keeper” & Tommen “Widows Wail“ (assumed, it hasn’t been mentioned since Joffrey’s funeral)
•Heartsbane, the ancestral two handed greatsword of House Tarly, currently in the possession of Lord Randyll Tarly.
•Longclaw, the ancestral Valyrian steel bd sword of House Mormont. Currently in the possession of Jon Snow, having been given to him by Jeor Mormont.
•Lady Forlorn, the ancestral sword of House Corbray, it is currently in the possession of Ser Lyn Corbray.
•Red Rain, the sword of House Drumm stolen in a raid. Given the name and colouring, possibly the ancestral sword of House Reyne
•Nightfall, the ancestral blade of House Harlaw and currently wielded by Ser Harras Harlaw.
•A Valyrian steel axe possessed by House Celtigar.
•Valyrian steel Arakh owned by Caggo (a sellsword in Essos).

Blades mentioned in the books with unknown fates.
•Blackfyre, the sword of Aegon I Targaryen. Carried by all Targaryen kings till Aegon IV who gave it to his bd Daemon Blackfyre who rose in rebellion against the Targaryens, taking the sword's name for his house. Its whereabouts are currently unknown, believed lost during The Battle Of The Red Grass Field.
•Dark Sister, the sword wielded by Visenya Targaryen. The last known owner was Bloodraven, believed lost during the Battle Of The Red Grass Field.
•Brightroar, the ancestral sword of House Lannister, lost when King Tommen II Lannister of the Rock sailed to Valyria and never returned.
•Vigilance, ancestral sword of House Hightower.
•Orphan-Maker, ancestral sword of House Roxton.

In addition the maesters of the Citadel possess some meager skill with the material, to provide Valyrian steel links to the few maesters who study magic. Only 1 in about 100 Maesters has a Valyrian Steel link in his chain, and the Archmaester of the field also possesses a ring, a rod, and a mask made from the metal. The rarity of such links isn't because it's a difficult practice to master, but because most Maesters are notoriously anti-magic, while others even refuse to believe such a force still exists in the world, or that it ever did to begin with.

I’m more worried by the fact that we saw the White Walker not only be invulnerable to fire, he actually put it out with his presence, will this affect the dragons?

[ali_kat]

Aphex said:

Could you recall that in the book thread? I haven't read them

It was mentioned in the show, the other week

[ali_kat]

Halb said:

Meryn 'fking' Trant.
Cercei
Mountain
Red Woman
Tywin Lannister
I had to look.

And you posted the image & still got it wrong

[Halb]

ali_kat said:

I’m more worried by the fact that we saw the White Walker not only be invulnerable to fire, he actually put it out with his presence, will this affect the dragons?

There was four of them wasn't there? And a piddling lil hut fire? I think dragonflame would be a bit harsher to stand up to.

[jesusbuiltmycar]

JagLover said:

A great episode all the way through, not just the end 30 minutes or so.

I found the first six episodes of this season to be average to down right awful (most Dorne scenes). Episode 7 was allot better and last night's was one of the great GOT episodes.

More like that for the last two please!

Agreed. Fantastic episode makes up for the rest of the season (and the last 2 books )

[ali_kat]

Halb said:

ali_kat said:

I’m more worried by the fact that we saw the White Walker not only be invulnerable to fire, he actually put it out with his presence, will this affect the dragons?

There was four of them wasn't there? And a piddling lil hut fire? I think dragonflame would be a bit harsher to stand up to.

Just the one walking through the Hut before he fought the Thenn & Jon smashed him to smithereens

[Aphex]

ali_kat said:

It was mentioned in the show, the other week

I know Randyll was mentioned but I don't recall there being anything about his weapon, must have missed it?

[BJG1]

Erm, if posting about an episode shown at 2am in spoiler tags is unacceptable - surely discussing the books in here is equally (I would suggest much more) spoiler-ridden and unacceptable?

[otolith]

I find it quite hard to remember which bits of information have been given in the TV series and which are from the books, so often have to bite my tongue here because I'm not sure where a bit of relevant information I have has come from.

[ali_kat]

Aphex said:

I know Randyll was mentioned but I don't recall there being anything about his weapon, must have missed it?

It's on the Show Wiki, so I'm assuming it was (Memory isn't that good )

[ali_kat]

BJG1 said:

Erm, if posting about an episode shown at 2am in spoiler tags is unacceptable - surely discussing the books in here is equally (I would suggest much more) spoiler-ridden and unacceptable?

Because posting about the episode is a spoiler

Who has what blade, isn't spoiling anything, in that there are no plot details being given away.

[BJG1]

ali_kat said:

Because posting about the episode is a spoiler

Who has what blade, isn't spoiling anything, in that there are no plot details being given away.

To you it may not be, to me posting something from a book that hasn't yet been in the show is a spoiler. If people want to discuss what happens in the book, use a book thread. I don't want to know who has what sword apart from what has been revealed in the show so far. Especially when we are discussing swords which can kill a white walker, which may become relevant later in the show.

[PeteB0]

Halb said:

ali_kat said:

I’m more worried by the fact that we saw the White Walker not only be invulnerable to fire, he actually put it out with his presence, will this affect the dragons?

There was four of them wasn't there? And a piddling lil hut fire? I think dragonflame would be a bit harsher to stand up to.

Dragonfire can melt stone (Harrenhal), I'd like to see them put that out.

Dragonglass, dragonfire, and dragonsteel (Valyrian steel was forged in dragon fire after all) look likely to be the weapons available to the armies of men. Plus whatever Bran et al come up with

[Aphex]

BJG1 said:

To you it may not be, to me posting something from a book that hasn't yet been in the show is a spoiler. If people want to discuss what happens in the book, use a book thread. I don't want to know who has what sword apart from what has been revealed in the show so far. Especially when we are discussing swords which can kill a white walker, which may become relevant later in the show.

Have to echo this, also I can't see it in the wiki that his weapon is revealed

Edited by Aphex on Tuesday 2nd June 10:25