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ali_kat said:
Excellent, we have a lot of unfinished stories from there 
The Freys
The Tullys
All of Rob's men
and where are Gendry and Littlefinger?
I reckon LF is going North with the Vale army, that's what he told Cersei he was gonna do.The Freys
The Tullys
All of Rob's men
and where are Gendry and Littlefinger?
We've seen Lannisters and Freys celebrating...I'm expecting good things from this storyline, considering who's been cast.
I must stop reading wiki links.
Looking up Dayne lead me to another character which made me think about the comment that a loved character was coming back this season and several people had suggested the hound. I think I now know who it's going to be and that is also tied to some scenes from the trailers.
Looking up Dayne lead me to another character which made me think about the comment that a loved character was coming back this season and several people had suggested the hound. I think I now know who it's going to be and that is also tied to some scenes from the trailers.
richtea78 said:
Jons sword was Longclaw. It was Valyrian so that's why it didn't shatter. Jorah left it for his dad, the Lord Commander when he ran off to escape the slavery charges that Ned was going to behead him for.
I still think the Night King is Benjen
but the nightking was around before Benjen wasn't he/it?I still think the Night King is Benjen
That's my thought - if the wights have been around for centuries, surely the intervening 'summer' they've been in a kind of reverse hibernation?
Would be very difficult to explain the 'spirit' of the winter's King somehow floating around to occupy Benjen when they don't talk or have any means of showing it well visually.
Unless the three eyed raven explains all - I'm assuming he was a Bran type from just before the last winter and has been helping hold winter back?
ETA - am I right in thinking there's winters (without wights but bloody cold) and WINTERS where humanity has to win against the wights? Last winter being a couple of generations ago but the last WINTER being long enough to pass out of recorded history?
Would be very difficult to explain the 'spirit' of the winter's King somehow floating around to occupy Benjen when they don't talk or have any means of showing it well visually.
Unless the three eyed raven explains all - I'm assuming he was a Bran type from just before the last winter and has been helping hold winter back?
ETA - am I right in thinking there's winters (without wights but bloody cold) and WINTERS where humanity has to win against the wights? Last winter being a couple of generations ago but the last WINTER being long enough to pass out of recorded history?
Edited by Sway on Thursday 28th April 21:22
Sway said:
ETA - am I right in thinking there's winters (without wights but bloody cold) and WINTERS where humanity has to win against the wights? Last winter being a couple of generations ago but the last WINTER being long enough to pass out of recorded history?
That's how I read it. From what I've read the seasons on westeros/planet don't seem to have a particular regularity, or if there is it hasn't been figured out yet. The summer that's currently ending appears to have been one of the longest on record, so the seasons don't seem to vary by weeks, but rather years.The way I read that is that the wights/whatever are most active during the winter, but it's rare to get a winter that's so long they can really threaten the whole of westeros. In the past, there were giants and the children on the forest who presumably dealt with this alone, but after the First Men defeated the whitewalkers and built the wall/nights watch to keep them at bay, there hasn't been a winter long enough for them to mount a real challenge and they've passed into legend for all but the Starks who put a lot into the fight back then.
ETA. I really really hope that Sansa doesn't make it all the way to the wall just to be captured by the black watch and kept miserable for a season.
Edited by glazbagun on Thursday 28th April 21:34
briangriffin said:
Is there any more written in the books about the history of the Starks prior to benjen, need etc?
How far do the wights go back? As it seems my Rhagar theory has been disproved lol
The books are written in a very precise manner. First person pov. It means the books are all subject to the unreliable narrator.How far do the wights go back? As it seems my Rhagar theory has been disproved lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreliable_narrator
Martin is a student of history and collaborates with historical authors. He wants Westeros history to be like real history, in that the further one goes back, the more open to interpretation stuff is. Are the WW 'good guys' 'bad guys' etc, as the wall built to keep them out of Humans in etc.
The best first example of this we get in the books is Robert's valiant rebellion, setting about a-righting the wrongs of the mad king and his son kidnapping the Stark girl, etc.
The WW go back to the first stories of men.
Bullett said:
I must stop reading wiki links.
Looking up Dayne lead me to another character which made me think about the comment that a loved character was coming back this season and several people had suggested the hound. I think I now know who it's going to be and that is also tied to some scenes from the trailers.
I think there is scope for at least 6 significant characters to come back.Looking up Dayne lead me to another character which made me think about the comment that a loved character was coming back this season and several people had suggested the hound. I think I now know who it's going to be and that is also tied to some scenes from the trailers.
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