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Red priests have form for resurrecting the dead. Melisandre is a red priest. Seems straightforward enough. But what does it cost? These things are never free.
Consequences - she regains her faith, and perhaps has another cause. Is Snow's oath satisfied? Is his watch ended, can he now go and interfere in the politics of the country?
Consequences - she regains her faith, and perhaps has another cause. Is Snow's oath satisfied? Is his watch ended, can he now go and interfere in the politics of the country?
otolith said:
Consequences - she regains her faith, and perhaps has another cause. Is Snow's oath satisfied? Is his watch ended, can he now go and interfere in the politics of the country?
"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post."I'd say Jon can do what he likes now. Don't know about his brothers though- they look married to the wall.
I also suspect than Roose Boltons words about Ramsay being treated like a mad dog will prove prophetic. He's no leader of men like Jon Snow. I just hope the ending isn't some incestuous marriage between Jon and Sansa like the Targaryen days.
Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 3rd May 12:16
glazbagun said:
irocfan said:
preview thoughts...
as for the gift for Ramsey - what's the betting on it being Rickon?
I think Theon is surely more likely. If Rickon hasn't been found yet and everyone thinks he's dead, why would anyone even be looking for him? It could be Fake Arya perhaps? Or Gendryas for the gift for Ramsey - what's the betting on it being Rickon?
jesusbuiltmycar said:
irocfan said:
preview thoughts...
as for the gift for Ramsey - what's the betting on it being Rickon?
I doubt it is Rickon - he still has his Direwolf and from what I remember (from the books) it was the most vicious one.as for the gift for Ramsey - what's the betting on it being Rickon?
d does make me laugh - but didn't Rickon end up with the Umbers?Edited by irocfan on Tuesday 3rd May 13:07
Thinking about it, the Umbers live close to the wall. Sansa and Theon are close to the wall. Sansa and Theon know that Rickon is alive, though not where they are.
The Umbers are allied to house Bolton, but largely because (I think) Greatjon Umber is captive to the Freys. The freys are allied to Bolton through Ramsays stepmum. Who he has now killed... So the Freys have less reason to support the Boltons now= Umber revolt when Ramsay reaches the wall?
The Umbers are allied to house Bolton, but largely because (I think) Greatjon Umber is captive to the Freys. The freys are allied to Bolton through Ramsays stepmum. Who he has now killed... So the Freys have less reason to support the Boltons now= Umber revolt when Ramsay reaches the wall?
glazbagun said:
Thinking about it, the Umbers live close to the wall. Sansa and Theon are close to the wall. Sansa and Theon know that Rickon is alive, though not where they are.
Going on the series trailer Sansa, Brienne and Podrick meet up with House Tully. So perhaps the missing Blackfish is no longer missing.Tully flag in the background.
Serious face Podrick is serious.
hornetrider said:
Why is everyone spoilering the trailer talk?!
I'm assuming, out of politeness and respect for other posters. Spoilering gives the rest of us that don't want to speculate, or see the speculation, the choice not to - Because technically, that speculation could be a spoiler for next week's episode. For instance, I could have a damn good guess what's about to happen with Theon, just from reading this page, as his bit of this story is still in the last published book (I don't watch the trailers)
otolith said:
Red priests have form for resurrecting the dead. Melisandre is a red priest. Seems straightforward enough. But what does it cost? These things are never free.
Consequences - she regains her faith, and perhaps has another cause. Is Snow's oath satisfied? Is his watch ended, can he now go and interfere in the politics of the country?
In the books, it is the resurrected person that it is taken out of, not the resurrecter.Consequences - she regains her faith, and perhaps has another cause. Is Snow's oath satisfied? Is his watch ended, can he now go and interfere in the politics of the country?
Good questions, he's a very moral man. But would his morals be able to overcome being stabbed by 'his people'? Already he has tried to go home to the defence of Winterfell.
glazbagun said:
Preview looks super awesome and much awaited!
How far do we think Theon will get? In the season trailer I'm sure I saw him kneeling in the snow with troops around him. I still think he's more likely to be caught by the Boltons
I think that after what has been done to him, no-one can catch him by the Boltons? How far do we think Theon will get? In the season trailer I'm sure I saw him kneeling in the snow with troops around him. I still think he's more likely to be caught by the Boltons
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