Game of Thrones - No spoilers

[irocfan]

glazbagun said:

I feel for the knight who got killed by Bronn in the Eyrie. That was one of the more horrible ones from my POV, the way he stuck the sword in right at the end...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN30YMzja6Y

[GravelBen]

Jasandjules said:

FourWheelDrift said:

He was a prisoner in the cage being take to the Wall to become a member of the nights watch, during the fight with the Kings Landing guards looking for Gendry fire broke out and they were going to burn alive, she let them out, that was his thanks for saving his life.

Thank you. And Irocfan.

That was a looong time ago and probably filed in my head and just a nice thing she did....

Its not so much a thanks for saving his life as what irocfan said - 3 would have died but didn't, so the faceless god is owed 3 lives as subsitute. Could have thought more about the bigger picture with her choices though!

[GravelBen]

Ramsay to get besieged and ironically eaten by his own dogs when they run out of food?

[irocfan]

GravelBen said:

Ramsay to get besieged and ironically eaten by his own dogs when they run out of food?

well that sort of thing has been hinted at by Roose

[walm]

Ramsay should be flayed THEN eaten by dogs, or made to live as a todger-less eunuch working in a high-end LF establishment as a liquids-mopping-up professional.

[eps]

Janluke said:

Halb said:

eps said:

Is Theon definitely, definitely no longer under the power of Ramsey... I just get that nagging feeling that he could turn back at some inopportune time.

I reckon it's like being an addict, or in a cult, there's always a risk. I would hope we have a confrontation between them two, hopefully Theon gets to off Ramsay.

If it was any other writer you could guarantee a Theon/Ramsay climax where Theon struggles with his two identities appearing to succumb to Reek before finally killing Ramsay. GRR on the other hand who know?

Arya or his dogs...

[Halb]

walm said:

Ramsay should be flayed THEN eaten by dogs, or made to live as a todger-less eunuch working in a high-end LF establishment as a liquids-mopping-up professional.

Oooo, you're mean.




I like it

[glazbagun]

I think Arya will have to kill someone good as another test- she'd previously shown herself unable to forget her past and the need for revenge. Mother of Dragons has a high price on her head, perhaps Tyrion or Varys if they prove themselves too good to beat.

Now that I think of it- where did the assasin that Barristan saved Danyris from come from? The one who looked like a little girl?

[FourWheelDrift]

glazbagun said:

Now that I think of it- where did the assasin that Barristan saved Danyris from come from? The one who looked like a little girl?

Daenerys just said "Warlocks" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QoqYXuA8LI

[Shakermaker]

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

So whilst we all know Roose and Jon and Tyrion etc... I seem to be one of these people who can't remember that the chap is apparently a Karstark (and where his alleigance is) or something like that - which may/may not be important to my knowledge of the plot in some cases.

I know a lot of that is also basis for fan theory.

[GravelBen]

Shakermaker said:

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

I can't speak for others, but I read the books

[Shakermaker]

GravelBen said:

Shakermaker said:

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

I can't speak for others, but I read the books

I have the books and am reading my way through, slowly, but of course, there's no book yet for S6...

[GravelBen]

Shakermaker said:

I have the books and am reading my way through, slowly, but of course, there's no book yet for S6...

Fair point! I discovered the books about a year before the show arrived and made a point of reading them before watching it as I didn't want to spoil the way the books appeared in my head.

I think some people just pay a lot of attention and remember more of the details, I've got a reasonable handle on it but keener beans than me certainly notice more.

[Halb]

glazbagun said:

I think Arya will have to kill someone good as another test- she'd previously shown herself unable to forget her past and the need for revenge. Mother of Dragons has a high price on her head, perhaps Tyrion or Varys if they prove themselves too good to beat.

Now that I think of it- where did the assasin that Barristan saved Danyris from come from? The one who looked like a little girl?

As 4☸ says warlocks hired, but that assassin was a sorrowful man, not a faceless man.

If Arya is sent on a real mission, it'll be to do a proper job, probably by the bank of Bravoos, and I don't see any goodies on their list...but if it's an initiation thing....she could be sent to kill Jon Snow or Sansa.

[Pints]

Shakermaker said:

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

So whilst we all know Roose and Jon and Tyrion etc... I seem to be one of these people who can't remember that the chap is apparently a Karstark (and where his alleigance is) or something like that - which may/may not be important to my knowledge of the plot in some cases.

I know a lot of that is also basis for fan theory.

That's what this thread is for. Is it not?

[Halb]

Shakermaker said:

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

So whilst we all know Roose and Jon and Tyrion etc... I seem to be one of these people who can't remember that the chap is apparently a Karstark (and where his alleigance is) or something like that - which may/may not be important to my knowledge of the plot in some cases.

I know a lot of that is also basis for fan theory.

I normally watch programmes over my laptop, but for GoT and similar complex stuff, I switch off everything else, normally turn off the lights as well and concentrate.
There is a lot going on, even when no-one is speaking, stuff is given away, like the constant letter writing/reading Tywin/Roose were doing in S3 before the Red Wedding.
The books do help though, I didn't realise when I first read them what an amazing storyteller Martin is, I love the world he has made so it helps me remember a good deal.

[ali_kat]

Pints said:

Shakermaker said:

How do the rest of you keep up with all the different secondary/tertiary characters that don't appear to get name checked in every episode?

So whilst we all know Roose and Jon and Tyrion etc... I seem to be one of these people who can't remember that the chap is apparently a Karstark (and where his alleigance is) or something like that - which may/may not be important to my knowledge of the plot in some cases.

I know a lot of that is also basis for fan theory.

That's what this thread is for. Is it not?

Well for some of you anyway



I and I'm a

[Halb]

Spent the afternoon reading and watching a tonne of stuff.

George on why Gods won't be turning up.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5822939/george-rr-martin-ex...

And a rather nice lil site with lots of theories.
This may be best i the book thread, unsure.
https://maidenvault.wordpress.com/
it's mostly about the details on the periphery of the main story

[jesusbuiltmycar]

Halb said:

Spent the afternoon reading and watching a tonne of stuff.

George on why Gods won't be turning up.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5822939/george-rr-martin-ex...

And a rather nice lil site with lots of theories.
This may be best i the book thread, unsure.
https://maidenvault.wordpress.com/
it's mostly about the details on the periphery of the main story

Interesting - I particularly liked the following question:

io9 said:

After you finish writing A Dream of Spring would you start another multi-volume fantasy series?

I think that by the time A Dream of Spring is finished GRRM will be older than Melisandre.

[TREMAiNE]

An interesting theory on what the High Sparrow told Tommen and what will happen now:

[Taken from Reddit]

"It's my belief that the High Sparrow told Tommen about the Tyrells' involvement in Joffrey's murder. Judging by the tears in his eyes when he's about to tell Cersei, it seemed to be the worst possible news. I believe it's Ser Loras who revealed this information as he seemed absolutely broken by his solitary confinement.
Immediately after Tommen tells her the news, Cersei and Jaime show up to the small council with a plan to invite the Tyrell army into King's Landing to deal with the Seven and protect Margaery from a talk of atonement. I believe this is a ruse by Cersei to draw the Tyrells into her scheme.
Why would Cersei do this? It accomplishes multiple things and is quite an ingenious move but may backfire terribly if the Tyrells are ready for it.
The Tyrells picking a fight with the Seven will create unrest among its followers/citizens of King's Landing. They will turn on and blame the Tyrells with the Lannisters "standing down." This creates a war between two of Cersei's least favorite factions: the citizens of King's Landing who treated her like garbage during her walk of atonement, and the family responsible for her son's murder. Every dead body is a win.
The Lannister army is now in perfect position to finish off the Tyrells and enact revenge for their fallen king. The dissolution of the Seven and the deaths of Loras, Margaery, Lady Olenna, and the High Sparrow would be the sprinkles on top of Cersei's revenge sundae.
This could all backfire, however, if the Tyrell army is allowed inside the walls of King's Landing, ready themselves to overtake the Lannister army, and claim the Iron Throne for themselves.
I didn't see anyone mention this theory anywhere, but it immediately came to mind after that small council scene. Will be curious to see this play out.
Edit to add: I think there are a few interesting additional tidbits, and this could solely be my confirmation bias speaking and reading too much between the lines, but it's interesting nonetheless.
1) During the conversation between the High Sparrow and Margaery about his past, he mentions a feast, drinking wine, sleeping bodies on the floor, and the endless struggle to maintain his position. Some interesting symbolism at play here.
2) When Tommen speaks with Cersei, she says that "Margaery's safety is paramount" and he immediately asks her "You don't like Margaery, do you?" almost in a way that implies "You were right about her." Then Cersei mentions that queens and kings demand respect and the High Sparrow doesn't respect them. Immediately after this is when Tommen says that he has to tell her a secret the High Sparrow told him. I read this in a way that Tommen's about to prove her wrong about the High Sparrow. Joffrey was king and the High Sparrow has gotten to the bottom of the true killer's identity. "See, ma? He does care about kings and queens!" The High Sparrow seems to be manipulating Tommen, and this information is the trump card that will keep him in Tommen's (and hopefully Cersei's) good graces.
3) During the small council scene, Jaime says "The King has been talking regularly to the High Sparrow about the queen and Ser Loras." It doesn't seem as if Tommen would be bothered by a walk of atonement from this comment. Almost like the High Sparrow has flipped Tommen to his side against his wife and brother-in-law.
4) Also during the small council scene, notice the look on Cersei's face when Lady Olenna mentions "Many will die no matter what we do. Better them than us." Cut to: smug satisfaction on Cersei's face as if to say "I hope there's many deaths, and you'll be one of them." And as someone else has pointed out, Rains of Castamere is playing in the background.
5) As /u/spurs-r-us points out, when Tommen is about to tell Cersei the secret, she holds her hand to his heart and Joffrey's ring is showing dead center in frame."