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HD Adam said:
Seems to be the accent from The Fingers where Peter Baelish comes from 
There too. It's good to remember that GoT use accents as shorthand for places to give reality, but they in no way relate to real geography.Karstarks are Ulsterish
Volantis was Weslsh
The Cleganes are sCOTTISH
Mormonts are Scottish
Starks are Yorkshire/Lancashire
Umbers are North Yorkshire
Bolton is RP
I'll be interested to hear Tarly's dad...this week I should think.
4x4Tyke said:
Blaming Margery for the hand of fate, very Lannister.
"Gold, their shrouds" could also be Lannister wealth hiding their illegitimacy.
Brilliantly ambiguous yet again.
There is also the possibility that the prettier queen could be Daenerys and all of Cersei's schemes against Marge will be for nothing."Gold, their shrouds" could also be Lannister wealth hiding their illegitimacy.
Brilliantly ambiguous yet again.
I hope Margery lives to be some part of the Sparrows plan. I can see her being all that's left of her family though.
Saw a promo for a BBC drama by Nick Hormby that starts tonight, called Love Nina. I recognised the star in it but couldn't place her. Until I checked IMDB.
On the left, stripy shirt and dark hair. Helena Bonham-Carter not looking like an accident in a Oxfam shop on the right.
Recognise her?
It's Arya's favourite friend
On the left, stripy shirt and dark hair. Helena Bonham-Carter not looking like an accident in a Oxfam shop on the right.
Recognise her?
It's Arya's favourite friend
Have been doing some online snooping. Aparrently in the books, Arya's friend is called The Waif and is actually in her thirties. Her backstory is similar to what she told Arya in the series, except that it was her father who went to the faceless men after her stepmother poisoned her, stunting her growth.
I wonder what being a faceless man actually involves. Is it like the Borg, where you give up your own individuality but can take that of any of your fellow faceless men at will? In which case "Arya" will cease to exist except as an avatar for any faceless man?
I wonder what being a faceless man actually involves. Is it like the Borg, where you give up your own individuality but can take that of any of your fellow faceless men at will? In which case "Arya" will cease to exist except as an avatar for any faceless man?
I thought it just meant you give up your life, if you want all the tricks, because if you kept who you were, you'd be a total badass and use it to personal profit...which is Arya's first instinct.
The Faceless Men originate from a slave movement and set themselves up to serve, so they have to serve humankind first and foremost.
The Faceless Men originate from a slave movement and set themselves up to serve, so they have to serve humankind first and foremost.
That's sort of what I meant. Arya will drink from the black cup and die. But in doing so, uploads herself to the Matrix so that she can be chosen by anyone should she be needed for a job. At the same time she will be a personality-dead NoOne going off on errands according to the faceless men.
She's shared her story so many times that any faceless man could surely impersonate her and soon she will share her face. I reckon she'll be ready to die and become a faceless man until the last minute when she discovers Jon/Sansa/Rickon is alive and bails.
I just cant see her getting access to their bag of tricks without dying/surrendering her perosnality, in which case she won't be Arya any more, just the memory of Arya.
She's shared her story so many times that any faceless man could surely impersonate her and soon she will share her face. I reckon she'll be ready to die and become a faceless man until the last minute when she discovers Jon/Sansa/Rickon is alive and bails.
I just cant see her getting access to their bag of tricks without dying/surrendering her perosnality, in which case she won't be Arya any more, just the memory of Arya.
Edited by glazbagun on Friday 20th May 23:07
Spanna said:
How and why do the faceless men choose their targets? Ayra was supposed to kill a guy before spotting Meryn Trant, right? What was the motivation for this and for other targets? They're badass but their overall intentions haven't been revealed have they?
It seemed in the first kill it was morally motivated. If you remember the guy she was supposed to to kill was taking bets against sailors not returning and if they did he took all their stuff. If they died he paid out to the families, except he didnt iirc.Tony Starks said:
Spanna said:
How and why do the faceless men choose their targets? Ayra was supposed to kill a guy before spotting Meryn Trant, right? What was the motivation for this and for other targets? They're badass but their overall intentions haven't been revealed have they?
It seemed in the first kill it was morally motivated. If you remember the guy she was supposed to to kill was taking bets against sailors not returning and if they did he took all their stuff. If they died he paid out to the families, except he didnt iirc.... Unless "expensive" is a relative term and really means that anyone can purchase them, provided what they offer in payment is a great sacrifice to themselves In which case it's not enough to be rich- you kust really want them dead.
Given that people who have lost everything or are in pain come to the temple for the gift of death, I can equally imagine people who have lost a great deal would offer all they have left for revenge.
Indeed, in the book Arya's "pal" said that she came there afterher father, on finding that she had been poisoned by her stepmum, offered them two thirds of his considerable wealth and his (stricken, poisoned) daughter in exchange for the gift of death to come to his wife
That would actually make them a kind of egalitarian organization- Cersei is bitter and ambitious, etc, but not so much that she'd willingly sacrifice her wealth and the people she loved. The father of some family member abused by his Lord, however, might offer all he has left for a revenge he is unable to get himself.
Actually, having typed the above, Sam Tarlys own father said he would kill him and "make it look like an accident" if he didn't take the black, such was his disappointment in his son. I wonder if Sam will be the target for the faceless men.
Edited by glazbagun on Saturday 21st May 06:03
otolith said:
SilverSixer said:
ali_kat said:
walm said:
Violence and nudity.
You mean tits & dragons surely 
So swearing, reason 5.
glazbagun said:
Actually, having typed the above, Sam Tarlys own father said he would kill him and "make it look like an accident" if he didn't take the black, such was his disappointment in his son. I wonder if Sam will be the target for the faceless men.
I don't think so. Sam has no claim to anything now and is effectively dead to his dad already Edited by glazbagun on Saturday 21st May 06:03
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