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richtea78 said:
Halb said:
So in next week's trailers...who is that bloke on horseback that rides to Bran?
Benjen. Tonight's episode shows the planning Martin has put in. There's no other reason for Benjen to exist as far as I can see. Are the Starks just genetically stupid or something?
Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, f
ks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.
Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, f
ks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
Halb said:
So in next week's trailers...who is that bloke on horseback that rides to Bran?
Which trailer is this?It isn't in here-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePO5JXVULM
Bye bye Wylis, you held the door so that Bran may live. 
This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
I found Ayra's reaction to the play interesting, she's no more a Faceless Man than I. I can see her learning the use of faces, taking some as disguise and running off.
Glad to avoid King's Landing this episode, hopefully the story line there and Meereen ramps up a bit now towards the end of the season, as nothing has happened in either city. Daenerys returning with the Dothraki hoard should be interesting.
Sansa should definitely take up an offer from Littlefinger for some Vale army, she's learned how to keep him at arms length even if she was to go back and take his offer of help. She could still have him offed later on and bully her weirdo cousin into providing what she needs.
This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
I found Ayra's reaction to the play interesting, she's no more a Faceless Man than I. I can see her learning the use of faces, taking some as disguise and running off.
Glad to avoid King's Landing this episode, hopefully the story line there and Meereen ramps up a bit now towards the end of the season, as nothing has happened in either city. Daenerys returning with the Dothraki hoard should be interesting.
Sansa should definitely take up an offer from Littlefinger for some Vale army, she's learned how to keep him at arms length even if she was to go back and take his offer of help. She could still have him offed later on and bully her weirdo cousin into providing what she needs.
ZesPak said:
Wasn't Rob like 14 yo or something, and he's the oldest? Granted, Ned and Caitlyn were too much on "tradition" and "honor", but their kids are really just kids.
Yeah, and to be fair to Ned he was handed responsibility at a young age too, so I think he took the whole Honor thing a bit too religiously out of compensation for his lost real world education.I still think Sansa has messed up massively.
glazbagun said:
Are the Starks just genetically stupid or something?
Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, fks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.
Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
You are assuming the Starks are the good guys in all this Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, f
ks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
Spanna said:
Bye bye Wylis, you held the door so that Bran may live.
This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
Made me think of two things-This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
1/ Could Bran be the guy in the tree teaching himself?
2/ Bran can speak to people in the past and can change the past. GoT will end with the whitewalkers just about to wipe everyone out, just as Bran makes it to a wierwood tree and goes back to convince the Chdren not to make them in the first place. Then he wakes up in winterfell and finds he can still walk and Hodor can talk.
glazbagun said:
Are the Starks just genetically stupid or something?
Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, fks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.
Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
Ned thought that as he was the King's hand and he struck up the deal with Littlefinger he would be ok didn't he? He didn't think Cersei had any power there and Ned also had the signed letter from Robert explaining Ned would look over the throne till Roberts rightful heir came of age.Ned refuses Cersei's offer to return to winterfell, despite her invoking their earlier discussion implying that things were about to take a turn for the worse.
Rob marries wrong, against advice from everyone. And takes Karstarks head, against advice from everyone!
Sansa tells Littlefinger he's either an idiot or enemy and she doesn't trust him... Then trusts his advice regarding the Blackfish. Then lectures a roomful of hardened meritocratic warriors about how loyal people are to the Stark name, despite having witnessed nothing but betrayal of that same name since leaving Winterfell as a child. She's nuttier than Caitlyn was!
Bran is a cripple living in a tree with a girl of a species presumed extinct for centuries, to whom he owes his life, and a millenium old level 4000 warg master. Despite being repeatedly told not to break anything, he goes to the most dangerous place he can all by himself, f
ks up, kills his dog, all of the Children who saved his life, leaves Hodor for dead and ruins his entire adulthood by screwing his brain up.Maybe they were better in the past, but Neds kids seem grade A morons. Jon Snow can't be Neds, he's too bright.
Rob's marriage was just out of love. He didn't care what a Frey would think. Young love is sometimes stupid.
Sansa obviously hates Baelish for parting her off with Ramsey. She used his advice on the Blackfish to her advantage as she was the one that wants Winterfell back? And obviously Ramsey dead.
Bran is just young and stupid. Despite being told by the TER that he can drown in the past and he needs to be careful he goes against his advice. Can see why considering how cool it is being able to see into the past. Who wouldn't do that?
Theorys are that if Bran steps through the wall now that the Night King would be able to, thus Bran would be bringing the wall down.
Can't wait for next week. And the week after. And the week after.
Only problem is i'm in Cyprus getting married 19th June-3rd July so will miss a couple episodes!
glazbagun said:
Spanna said:
Bye bye Wylis, you held the door so that Bran may live.
This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
Made me think of two things-This time paradoxing situation is certainly unusual though. Things that have happened are yet to happen... ie. Bran warging into young Hodor to make him into Hodor. What a bloody story line though, "Hold the door!"' All those seasons, all that time.
1/ Could Bran be the guy in the tree teaching himself?
2/ Bran can speak to people in the past and can change the past. GoT will end with the whitewalkers just about to wipe everyone out, just as Bran makes it to a wierwood tree and goes back to convince the Chdren not to make them in the first place. Then he wakes up in winterfell and finds he can still walk and Hodor can talk.
Azor Ahai could be the theory that comes true, is it Jon or the new red Priestess seems to think it's Daenerys or is all that just a smokescreen for a bigger picture?
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