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[ZesPak]

"Hold the door" is never going to be the same again...

[BlackST]

Good theory about Bran.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/05/the...

[Spanna]

BlackST said:

Anybody wonder where Yara and Theon are heading with the ships?

North to join Sansa and Jon?
South to sail away, possibly Essos and eventually onto Meereen? Taking Euron's plan and running away with it.

[glazbagun]

Spanna said:

The fact that this theory is potentially true and could happen, but could also be wildly inaccurate to the point of being mental is what makes GoT so great. I hope we get to see the rest of what happened at the Tower of Joy, is it Jon or could there be something completely different that happened there? It must have serious significance to warrant flashback scenes.

Azor Ahai could be the theory that comes true, is it Jon or the new red Priestess seems to think it's Daenerys or is all that just a smokescreen for a bigger picture?

Agreed. It also occured to me that Bran may actually be Bran the Builder. If he can warg into people the past, he could be there when Winterfell, Storms End and the Wall were built, help settle the peace between the First Men and the Children, etc, in a Bill & Ted 2 way, or like Valen in Babylon 5.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 24th May 01:09

[4x4Tyke]

It could be that Bran was being taught that interfering in the past comes at a cost.

I think Arya mission could be another test, she seems to carry it out without much concern, but the victim is rather undeserving of the fate unlike other faceless victims.

[Johnny]

One of the best episodes of all the seasons for me. Really enjoyed that.

Love reading all the theories.

[Beati Dogu]

FourWheelDrift said:

Halb said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Ha! It's Kevin Eldon as Ned Stark.

A fine performance of a Northern lord...

"I am the real Ned Stark!"

Where's my jelly!??

Good to see the actor Kevin Eldon and also Richard E Grant as well.

[smithyithy]

I thought it was a good episode, especially the action-packed last part, but part of me feels somewhat cheated by the WW history with the Children..

'So you created them by stabbing some random bloke in the chest?'
'Yeah we were at war..'

I hope there's more to it than that because that seems a bit of a lazy explanation..

[CrutyRammers]

glazbagun said:

I still think Sansa has messed up massively.

Yeah, surely LF is leading her into a trap regarding the Blackfish, though I don't entirely see why. You'd think he'd want some help to get rid of the Boltons first; maybe he thinks the vale knights can do it on their own.

[CrutyRammers]

Spanna said:

BlackST said:

Anybody wonder where Yara and Theon are heading with the ships?

North to join Sansa and Jon?
South to sail away, possibly Essos and eventually onto Meereen? Taking Euron's plan and running away with it.

That's quite a nice new random force to throw into the mix.
Being crowned the Salt King looked a bit harsh though, don't fancy that much.

[hab1966]

Just moving away from the storyline for a moment.

Did anybody else find the sound very quiet for yesterdays episode. We had to crank the amplifier up, but given my daughter had just gone to bed, we decided against carrying on with it and stopped until another time. We didn't get much further than 10 mins in, but we needed subtitles!

[ali_kat]

I'm still absolutely speechless in awe & horror

So...

[The Beaver King]

BlackST said:

Sansa obviously hates Baelish for parting her off with Ramsey. She used his advice on the Blackfish to her advantage as she was the one that wants Winterfell back? And obviously Ramsey dead.

There is a theory kicking about that it won't be the Blackfish they find in Riverrun, but potentially Lady Stoneheart.

Not 100% sold on this, as it seems unlikely they would resurrect another major character so soon after Jon. It would cheapen character deaths to be honest, as you will always expect people to just be brought back to life.

That said, I'd love Lady Stoneheart to be brought into it. Then we get all the Stark girls going full Northern vengeance!

[Rick_1138]

The Beaver King said:

There is a theory kicking about that it won't be the Blackfish they find in Riverrun, but potentially Lady Stoneheart.

Not 100% sold on this, as it seems unlikely they would resurrect another major character so soon after Jon. It would cheapen character deaths to be honest, as you will always expect people to just be brought back to life.

That said, I'd love Lady Stoneheart to be brought into it. Then we get all the Stark girls going full Northern vengeance!

That could work, as petar Baylish was smitten with caitlyn back in the day. He could also be trying to get the starks out of the way and move in with the vale army and take winterfell for himself....is Cersei wont give it to him, he will have to take it.....

[irocfan]

am I alone in thinking that Hodor's sacrifice is in vain - the nightking now has a tracker on Bran so can find him whenever he wants

[JagLover]

smithyithy said:

I thought it was a good episode, especially the action-packed last part, but part of me feels somewhat cheated by the WW history with the Children..

'So you created them by stabbing some random bloke in the chest?'
'Yeah we were at war..'

I hope there's more to it than that because that seems a bit of a lazy explanation..

It doesn't seem that lazy to me

The children were faced with extinction and so created the ultimate WMD, but it either turned on them, or they felt remorse over what they had done. What were you hoping for?

There was powerful magic involved, hence why he was tied to a weirwood tree.

Edited by JagLover on Tuesday 24th May 08:57

[JagLover]

ZesPak said:

"Hold the door" is never going to be the same again...

That really got to me for some reason. Maybe the juxtaposition of Hodor trying to hold the door closed, and being killed by the wights as he did so, with his younger self and the music. Maybe just reflecting that his entire life was F*cked up in order for him to fulfil his role in that one moment in time.

I don't often cry at these things but I did then.

Great episode, Kingsmoot was flat, but everything else was great.

This red priestess seems allot more knowledgeable and confident than Melisandre.

[Woody]

I'm probably being a bit thick here, but can someone explain the Bran/Winterfell/Hodor scene?

In this flash back Hodor was Wilis, did Horod become Hodor because Bran warged into him in while he was with present and past Hodor/Willis?

And if Bran's flash back occurred 'in the present' then how could Hodor have been Hodor since we first saw him?



Oh and do we think that Hodor will come back as a Wight?

Edited by Woody on Tuesday 24th May 09:03

[smithyithy]

The reasoning is fine, but the short clip showing it just seemed too 'simple' if that makes sense.

Since season 1 we've had these amazing scenes with the WW's turning babies, riding their frozen dead horses, the scene early in the program where they're in some sort of ice temple.. It's all very mythical and exciting.

I was just hoping for something a bit similar or on a similar scale maybe.. rather than just stabbing a bloke tied to a tree.

Plus it was my understanding that the war between the Children and man ensued when the men sailed over from Essos and began taking over Westeros, then the WW's appeared (perhaps because of a god or something ancient), so the Children and man made peace to fight them of, build the Wall etc. I don't think the history between them has ever been explained in much detail in the show has it?

[walm]

irocfan said:

am I alone in thinking that Hodor's sacrifice is in vain - the nightking now has a tracker on Bran so can find him whenever he wants

well that or the enormous horde of undead who break through the door in 2-3 mins, catch up with the Bran-litter dragged by a slight girl within a further couple of minutes, following the rather obvious trail in the snow.