The UK Border Agency.

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Victor McDade

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4,395 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Ooops.

ES said:
Police were today searching for a banned Islamic extremist who was able to enter Britain unchallenged.

Raad Salah walked through border controls at the weekend only days after Home Secretary Theresa May excluded him for his anti-Semitic views.

Guards are supposed to check all passengers against security watchlists but they failed to spot him or turn him away. A Whitehall source told the Standard that Ms May is furious and has ordered police to track him down and deport him.

It is understood detectives went to an event Mr Salah was due to attend last night at Conway Hall in central London but he did not show up.

The radical, who lives in Israel, came to Britain at the invitation of Left-wing Labour MPs to give a speech on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict this week.

The disclosure comes two weeks after the Home Secretary launched the Government's anti-extremism Prevent strategy, which said ministers would no longer tolerate those who hold views likely to foster hatred or division. Keeping out terror suspects and extremists on government watchlists was one of its central aims.

Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, who used to chair the counter-terrorism parliamentary sub-committee, said: "These are the same mistakes that have been going on for a decade now and which the new government vowed to correct. How has this been allowed to happen yet again?"

One possibility is that the UK Border Agency failed to serve papers on Mr Salah informing him he had been excluded. He may also have used another name.

In 2008 Mr Salah was charged with incitement to violence and racism by a Jerusalem court over a speech in which he invoked what is known as the "blood libel" - a notorious anti-Semitic slur.

He was said to have accused Jewish people of using children's blood to bake bread. Afterwards, the 1,000-strong crowd rioted. Mr Salah was released from prison in 2005 after serving two years for raising millions of pounds for Palestinian terror group Hamas.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23965018-hunt-for-banned-cleric-who-was-let-into-britain.do

V88Dicky

7,302 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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How fking hard can it be??

Tsippy

15,077 posts

168 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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V88Dicky said:


How fking hard can it be??
Isn't he the boss on 'The Apprentice' ?

audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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I have difficulty understanding the stupidity of calling it the "UK Border Agency".

Borders are land-based political boundaries.

We're a fking island for fk's sake.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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But his beard is smaller than a fist so therefore he is un-trustworthy (aacording to the uk bred extremists)

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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UK Border Agency is Not Fit For Purpose.

You only have to watch the TV program to spot that.

Zod

35,295 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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How did he walk through border controls? Did he cross the Channel in a small boat? It should be impossible at an airport: scan pasport - see name and photo, see alarm flash up to say "DETAIN". Or am I just naive for imagining that's the reason the passport checkers spend so long checking the passports of British citizens?

Dino D

1,953 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Zod said:
How did he walk through border controls? Did he cross the Channel in a small boat? It should be impossible at an airport: scan pasport - see name and photo, see alarm flash up to say "DETAIN". Or am I just naive for imagining that's the reason the passport checkers spend so long checking the passports of British citizens?
Nah, checking for parking fines..

If he needed a visa to get in he would have had to do a finger print scan when getting the visa and when crossing the checkpoint - the fingerprint ties all the various identities together but if he wasn't scanned than it wouldn't have picked him up (ie came in on an EU passport).

V88Dicky

7,302 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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odyssey2200 said:
UK Border Agency is Not Fit For Purpose.

You only have to watch the TV program to spot that.
To be fair, it seems the immigration officers doing the arresting of illegals do a decent job. It's those numpties with their shirts hanging out at airports who seem inept.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

156 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Just arrest the 'left-wing labour MPs' who invited him and keep them in detention until he hands himself in. Simple. smile

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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V88Dicky said:
odyssey2200 said:
UK Border Agency is Not Fit For Purpose.

You only have to watch the TV program to spot that.
To be fair, it seems the immigration officers doing the arresting of illegals do a decent job. It's those numpties with their shirts hanging out at airports who seem inept.
So the guys on the street do their bit to find the illegal.
He is told to report to the police and await deportation
illegal fails to report and is never seen again.
Yeah! brilliant system guys!


I was watching a program where the Police were pulling in Trucks and finding illegals sat in the axles etc.
They arrested the illegals and took them to the station, where they were given a rail warrant so that they could hand themselves in at the Immigration center.
Shock of shocks that they all took the rail warrant and fooked off with it.
banghead

carmonk

7,910 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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All he has to do now is claim his life is in danger 'back home' and he'll get to stay in England and be supported by the taxpayer for the rest of his life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009079/Un...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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carmonk said:
All he has to do now is claim his life is in danger 'back home' and he'll get to stay in England and be supported by the taxpayer for the rest of his life.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009079/Un...
Another piss boiling reason to GTF out of the EU

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Sheeda Pistol said:
But his beard is smaller than a fist so therefore he is un-trustworthy (aacording to the uk bred extremists)
Do you have a beard or are you amongst the ranks of the un-trustworthy? smile

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Caulkhead said:
Just arrest the 'left-wing labour MPs' who invited him and keep them in detention until he hands himself in. Simple. smile
Excellent idea! thumbup

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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Zod said:
How did he walk through border controls? Did he cross the Channel in a small boat? It should be impossible at an airport: scan pasport - see name and photo, see alarm flash up to say "DETAIN". Or am I just naive for imagining that's the reason the passport checkers spend so long checking the passports of British citizens?
Border control were too busy strip searching a granny from Devon and patting down small white girls.

Mojooo

12,668 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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odyssey2200 said:
So the guys on the street do their bit to find the illegal.
He is told to report to the police and await deportation
illegal fails to report and is never seen again.
Yeah! brilliant system guys!


I was watching a program where the Police were pulling in Trucks and finding illegals sat in the axles etc.
They arrested the illegals and took them to the station, where they were given a rail warrant so that they could hand themselves in at the Immigration center.
Shock of shocks that they all took the rail warrant and fooked off with it.
banghead
The ground officers ahve a tough and relentless jobs.

The issue seems to be with policy and resources. SImpel fact is we dont have the resources to lock them up whiel they await a hearing to be kicked out.

WRT to the people at the airports - i would imagine they have far to many peopel coming in to catch most dodgy characters.

speedyman

1,523 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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If we don't have the resources to lock them up why bother trying to catch them in the first place.

We need a bit of joined up thinking from the Government to get shot of all dross that gets into this country and to hell with the PC brigade.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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speedyman said:
We need a bit of joined up thinking from the Government to get shot of all dross that gets into this country and to hell with the PC brigade.
Amen to that!

Mojooo

12,668 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th June 2011
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speedyman said:
If we don't have the resources to lock them up why bother trying to catch them in the first place.
SOME of them are deported.