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Morningside
16,764 posts
98 months
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BruceV8 said: V88Dicky said: BruceV8 said: Disband UKBA and replace it with a National Border Police, who will be uniformed, armed and run under military discipline. It will also have a large Special Branch. It will mostly, though not entirely, be recruited from ex service men and women. Sounds like the Civil Nuclear Constabulary! (Not that that's a bad thing)  I said ex servicemen, not retired Home Office force cozzers! And the uniform won't be one of those black combats affairs with stab vests. It will be a fetching green (a bit like the German border police) with a proper tailored tunic and belt, shirt and tie. Or maybe a khaki tunic with very dark green trousers in a 'black and tans' stylee. Hmmm.... I would vote for it and have quietly been saying this for years. The whole lot is a pissing joke. Is it only the general public that can see this? Personally after all the ranting and raving when in opporsition I really expected better from this lot. Maybe they are being held back by the wooly Liberals. If so, tell them to sling their hook. Shouting 'Not fit for purpose' is a piss poor way of getting out of things.
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Parrot of Doom
23,075 posts
103 months
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princeperch said: the human rights act was brought into play to stop jokers like hitler from taking out a generation of jews. not so some lying somalian can live in kensington in a 3 million quid house with his 10 kids. you might have signed up to that but I certainly didnt - and its the european courts that have extended the ambit and mutated articles 2,3 and 8 (specifically) so as the echr as it now is has gone beyond what it was designed for.
come over here on a visitors visa and dont go back? no problem, get up the duff by a british citizen and we will take care of you.
come over here and run someone over? then maybe leg it from the scene? no problem. have a kid with a brit cit, and well take care of you.
come over here to study at the oxford street college of excellence doing a certificate in plant potting but your foreign spouse (who comes over as your dependant) isnt entitled to work? dont worry about the rules (which you were aware of when you applied for entry clearance) - sue the government instead to get you wife the right to work.
come over here as a doctor and forge your right to work documentation? cause a health scare? go ahead. when the government try and boot you out for this crime, we'll give you legal aid for that ,too.
in fact, all of the above - we'll give you legal aid. would you like me to go on? [citation needed]
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princeperch
4,521 posts
116 months
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Parrot of Doom said: [citation needed] I dont need to give you a citation - these are all true.
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Victor McDade
Original Poster
3,663 posts
51 months
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madala
4,908 posts
67 months
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...I wonder how much all this costing us the taxpayer....FFS.
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Mr_B
4,711 posts
112 months
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Victor McDade
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3,663 posts
51 months
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Mr_B
4,711 posts
112 months
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Bit rich of the Government knocking the agency, it's the Government who signed up to all sorts of stupid ( mainly Euro ) laws which have removed the ability to police the system. even if they knew all 100K plus the system to remove them is so long , it's not going to happen.
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odyssey2200
17,433 posts
78 months
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TBH trying to deport these people, even if we found them would just cost us a lot of money just to find out that it's against their 'uman rights. 
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Mojocvh
12,689 posts
131 months
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odyssey2200 said: UK Border Agency is Not Fit For Purpose.
You only have to watch the TV program to spot that. Unless you are white, hetro and middle-aged. They sort them out with GUSTO.
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Mr_B
4,711 posts
112 months
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odyssey2200
17,433 posts
78 months
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Mr_B said:  speechless, f'kin speechless.
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Victor McDade
Original Poster
3,663 posts
51 months
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Mr_B said: Wow! That's incredible.
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odyssey2200
17,433 posts
78 months
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Mojooo
7,278 posts
49 months
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Blame it on whinging passengers. iF they did through cehcks on everyone queues woudl be longer and they would need thousands of more staff - that much was pretty obvious from watching 'UK BORDER FORCE'.
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Wings
3,972 posts
84 months
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audidoody said: I have difficulty understanding the stupidity of calling it the "UK Border Agency". Borders are land-based political boundaries. We're a f  king island for f k's sake. The UK also has a land border.
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bga
7,131 posts
120 months
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Victor McDade said: You obviously don't travel much. I fly abroad every other week which inevitably means that I fly home. The reception on arrival is much better than the majority of European countries that I visit regularly. That said, the UKBA do a lot of things badly, not in the least preventing skilled & experienced talent from coming to the UK and contributing.
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Police State
3,302 posts
89 months
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Wings said: The UK also has a land border. yeah, it's called Sangatte and its got more holes than a french colander.
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Wings
3,972 posts
84 months
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Police State said: yeah, it's called Sangatte and its got more holes than a french colander. Wrong, try to the South of Belfast.
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Police State
3,302 posts
89 months
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Wings said: Police State said: yeah, it's called Sangatte and its got more holes than a french colander. Wrong, try to the South of Belfast. I thought that was just the Fags and Drugs channel... care to elaborate on what you say?
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