News of the World

[theironduke]

Latest Millie Dowler phone hacking news.....utter utter scum, sickeniing.

[littleowl]

They've surpassed themselves this time. It's one thing hacking into Prescotts phone or Sienna Millers, but to DELETE MESSAGES as well???!!! Isn't that tampering with evidence/potential evidence as to what actually happened to the poor girl at the time she was abducted?

[theironduke]

littleowl said:

They've surpassed themselves this time. It's one thing hacking into Prescotts phone or Sienna Millers, but to DELETE MESSAGES as well???!!! Isn't that tampering with evidence/potential evidence as to what actually happened to the poor girl at the time she was abducted?

Messing about with "celebs" and politicians phones, while not morally right i kind of think 'mehh' but this...actually makes me angry, what can't of sick, fked up person would do it??

edit for retarded typing

Edited by theironduke on Monday 4th July 22:21

[Mojocvh]

Astounding arrogance (or living in a crack fuelled existence [if true]).

[littleowl]

Just hope that they throw the book at the codpiece at the NOTW responsible for this, plus the piece of that they hired to do this....

[Kwai Chang Caine]

When they say "hacked", what do they mean?

Dialling into a non-password, or default password protected mailbox or something more spy-like?

[theironduke]

littleowl said:

Just hope that they throw the book at the codpiece at the NOTW responsible for this, plus the piece of that they hired to do this....

Just don't get how a normal person could do it. Must be a proper twisted . Definitely deserves porridge, preferably with the nonces, rapists and murderers.

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Currently being covered on Newsnight now.

Tory party getting the blame right now...

[Megaflow]

Do newspapers have any kind of licence? They should be shut down for this stunt. Period.

The News of the World have been highly smelly for a long time and will print anything if the sales are more than the out of court settlement, but this is just sick frankly.

[Oakey]

Kwai Chang Caine said:

When they say "hacked", what do they mean?

Dialling into a non-password, or default password protected mailbox or something more spy-like?

Dialling into peoples voicemail manually.

[littleowl]

theironduke said:

Just don't get how a normal person could do it. Must be a proper twisted . Definitely deserves porridge, preferably with the nonces, rapists and murderers.

"Independent Private Investigator" hired by the NOTW apparently...and yep, hopefully a stint in the chokey will be forthcoming...

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Oakey said:

Kwai Chang Caine said:

When they say "hacked", what do they mean?

Dialling into a non-password, or default password protected mailbox or something more spy-like?

Dialling into peoples voicemail manually.

Sorry for being thick, but how easy is that to do?

[Oakey]

Kwai Chang Caine said:

Sorry for being thick, but how easy is that to do?

Call the number and when you hear the greeting message press *. Then enter the pin. Dunno if it works anymore, it used to.

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Oakey said:

Kwai Chang Caine said:

Sorry for being thick, but how easy is that to do?

Call the number and when you hear the greeting message press *. Then enter the pin. Dunno if it works anymore, it used to.

Cheers


See, to me, if there is no password, then it's not the heinous crime it's being made out to be. Ok, the consequences in this case weren't that nice but I find it hard to get particularly angry about.

Now, if they're using something a little more sinister to hack protected mailboxes; yeah, that's not cricket.

[Oakey]

I'm sure it falls foul of some communications law. Probably more so when they started tampering with said voicebox and deleting messages so people could leave new messages for them to listen to.

[davepoth]

Oakey said:

I'm sure it falls foul of some communications law. Probably more so when they started tampering with said voicebox and deleting messages so people could leave new messages for them to listen to.

It falls foul of Perverting the Course of Justice in all probability if they deleted evidence. Certainly they tampered with evidence given how much weight was given to the phone at the time. People could go to jail for many years.

[Puffing Devil]

Legalese doesn't really enter into the equation here. There are very few things that genuinely enrage me and this is one of them. Listening is bad enough, but what on earth gives them the right to delete her family's messages from her voicemail account?

[Kwai Chang Caine]

davepoth said:

Oakey said:

I'm sure it falls foul of some communications law. Probably more so when they started tampering with said voicebox and deleting messages so people could leave new messages for them to listen to.

It falls foul of Perverting the Course of Justice in all probability if they deleted evidence. Certainly they tampered with evidence given how much weight was given to the phone at the time. People could go to jail for many years.

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Maybe they didn't mean to; is possible that the messages, once listened to, get deleted in favour of new ones?

Not trying to defend NOTW here; just trying to figure out exactly what they've done.

[Randy Winkman]

Kwai Chang Caine said:

Cheers


See, to me, if there is no password, then it's not the heinous crime it's being made out to be. Ok, the consequences in this case weren't that nice but I find it hard to get particularly angry about.

What, like walking into someone's house and nicking their stuff cos they left the back door unlocked?

[littleowl]

Oakey said:

I'm sure it falls foul of some communications law. Probably more so when they started tampering with said voicebox and deleting messages so people could leave new messages for them to listen to.

As I am led to believe, that Bellfield character who killed Millie also killed two others after he had killed her. Part of this affair has focused on whether or not the police could have caught him earlier, therby preventing two more murders. Perhaps if the police had had access to these 'deleted messages' at some earlier point in time, then Bellfield would have been caught before he could commit these other killings?

I don't know how aware/unaware the police were of these missing messages, but I do wonder if the who deleted them might have in any way contributed to the other two murders?