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Shay HTFC
2,945 posts
58 months
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Apache said: Shay HTFC said: I think that in a way, people need religion. As long as there are hard times in the world, people are going to turn to religion of some sort. It'd be nice if they could turn to each other rather than some imaginary friend who is better than everyone else s imaginary friend though wouldn't it I don't want to take this off topic, but my mum is religious. She's had a tough life and religion gives her hope, strength and a feeling of relative peace. Who is anyone to say that she shouldn't be allowed to experience those things the way she chooses to providing she's not hurting anyone else. It would be nice if people could turn to each other, yes, but that can't always happen and ironically is a bit of an idealistic hope.
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fluffnik
17,367 posts
96 months
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carmonk said: Infected rather than regressed.  Deliberately at that. 
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AJS-
10,016 posts
105 months
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Most western "religion" I have encountered is more social and cultural in nature than a true belief in some spiritual being. Even most of the bible belt loons in the states.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,951 posts
85 months
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Shay HTFC said: Don't you think theres a difference though. I'm sure if a national tragedy happened here, people would be filling the streets too. Dream on. Everyone would be running around pointing fingers screaming about how the police fire etc etc etc were to slow dimwitted etc etc. Finger pointing would be primary over joining together. Look at the london bombings for an idea of how we would react.
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caraddict
750 posts
13 months
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To be fair, the police used a lot of unnecessary time to gather and take take action regarding Utøya, but in general I think people realize that they did as best as they could. It was an attack like to other, after all - who trains in advance for a gunman rampage on an island with only kids?? Anyway, today in Oslo (and across the country): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17852176"Some 40,000 people have gathered on an Oslo square to sing a popular peace song which mass killer Anders Behring Breivik condemned at his trial."
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The Hypno-Toad
7,002 posts
74 months
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The Hypno-Toad said: Breivik is not a serial killer or a spree killer. He is insane by any normal standards but he has a plan and he is trying to stick to it. He wants to inspire and like it or not, he will. Hate it when I'm right. Especially in this case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19304814
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sneijder
4,856 posts
103 months
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The police in Oslo have been slammed for their performance.
The Chief of Police has left.
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ALawson
4,371 posts
120 months
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Verdict due now, live on TV for those interested.
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Sheets Tabuer
12,144 posts
84 months
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So he's sane and given 21 years.
Not that the'll ever let him out.
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MGZRod
5,793 posts
45 months
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Minimum of 10 apparently. Daft...
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Finlandia
Original Poster
4,367 posts
100 months
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21 years, and "storage/custody". After the 21 years have passed, a custody of five years is added if he is still deemed to be dangerous, after that another five years and another.
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Sheets Tabuer
12,144 posts
84 months
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Ruling him sane is going to open a can of worms with his manifesto.
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Asterix
16,433 posts
97 months
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Sheets Tabuer said: Ruling him sane is going to open a can of worms with his manifesto. I'm glad you posted that - that was exactly what I was thinking when he was ruled sane. It gives credence to his manifesto and why he went loco - only he didn't go loco, they've ruled against that.
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dundarach
896 posts
97 months
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I'd never thought about the fact the the courts now say he's sane.....
Seems to me this is exactly what he wanted.
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Jandywa
724 posts
20 months
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How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane?
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ALawson
4,371 posts
120 months
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Jandywa said: How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane? Is Bliar sane?
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Asterix
16,433 posts
97 months
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ALawson said: Jandywa said: How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane? Is Bliar sane? Was Osama Bin Laden sane?
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ALawson
4,371 posts
120 months
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That is the question, this is all about perspectives. He believes he was at war, he doesn't look at it as murder in the same was politicians and OBL went about their terrorism/warcraft. I am sure people living in the mountains in Afganistan just doing there thing that killed by Alied forces accidently could easily make the same accusations.
The world is mad and always will be.
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Asterix
16,433 posts
97 months
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Wouldn't it be ironic that if in 21 years time when he's up for the opportunity of release, it's a Sharia court that decides.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,951 posts
85 months
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Jandywa said: How can anybody who murders 77 people be ruled as sane? Easily. Was Genghis Khan insane? What about Caesar? so on so forth. Also try remember one persons innocent is another persons guilty.
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