Mexican Drugs Gangsters Do Not Mess About...
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Gameface said:
The latter.
I'm well aware these videos exist.
This particular one no. Apparently I’d watched too many on that site despite not remembering being on it I just followed a link. The descriptions were enough and I’ve seen others.I'm well aware these videos exist.
I don’t think we in the west should be sheltered from these things we are too soft have it and cannot even imagine they happen.
DurianIceCream said:
Whenever there is a thread about guns, crime and the United States, we get gold it is -obvious- and -common sense- that the US needs more gun control.
Mexico has very strict gun laws. It's not easy for private citizens to own guns, they are tightly regulated. Oh that's right, Mexico also has shocking violent crime rates which are multiples of the US.
The vast majority of guns used in the Mexican drug wars would have originated from the US simply because of their lax gun ownership laws. Whilst it is generally prohibited to sell to foreign citizens, there is a roaring trade in Americans buying on behalf of the cartels from gun shops who will also, sometimes, look the other way. Plus the fact virtually anyone can buy a gun from a private citizen with no real checks.Mexico has very strict gun laws. It's not easy for private citizens to own guns, they are tightly regulated. Oh that's right, Mexico also has shocking violent crime rates which are multiples of the US.
It is a lucrative business and one the yanks need to get a hold of and sort and one of the solutions is proper gun control.
valiant said:
The vast majority of guns used in the Mexican drug wars would have originated from the US simply because of their lax gun ownership laws. Whilst it is generally prohibited to sell to foreign citizens, there is a roaring trade in Americans buying on behalf of the cartels from gun shops who will also, sometimes, look the other way. Plus the fact virtually anyone can buy a gun from a private citizen with no real checks.
It is a lucrative business and one the yanks need to get a hold of and sort and one pis the solutions is proper gun control.
Only if the mexicans could build a wall ..... It is a lucrative business and one the yanks need to get a hold of and sort and one pis the solutions is proper gun control.
Gameface said:
Have you seen it?
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that pointJoey Ramone said:
Gameface said:
Have you seen it?
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that pointNow I for one don't need to watch the latest cartel torture snuff. Once you've seen a tiny bit you've usually satisfied whatever curiosity you might have.
I've certainly never felt the need to prove I've seen any of it by giving a full description to show I watched it closely through to the end.
It's a bit odd to be honest.
I've certainly never felt the need to prove I've seen any of it by giving a full description to show I watched it closely through to the end.
It's a bit odd to be honest.
Tryke3 said:
valiant said:
The vast majority of guns used in the Mexican drug wars would have originated from the US simply because of their lax gun ownership laws. Whilst it is generally prohibited to sell to foreign citizens, there is a roaring trade in Americans buying on behalf of the cartels from gun shops who will also, sometimes, look the other way. Plus the fact virtually anyone can buy a gun from a private citizen with no real checks.
It is a lucrative business and one the yanks need to get a hold of and sort and one pis the solutions is proper gun control.
Only if the mexicans could build a wall ..... It is a lucrative business and one the yanks need to get a hold of and sort and one pis the solutions is proper gun control.
More seriously, Trump can build a wall as long and as high as he wants but it will make little difference. Most guns heading south tend to go through regular border crossing points hidden in lorries and cars. There are tens of thousands of crossings every single day and both the US and Mexican authorites admit that they can only stop and search a tiny percentage of vehicles.
The cartels know that for every consignment lost to the authorities, a hundred get through undetected.
And that's before we get to the tunnels...
Oakey said:
Do you think the problem is the easy availability of guns from their next door neighbour finding their way into their country? If Scotland had a firearm policy like the US and there were 112 firearms for every 100 Scots do you think England would have more or less firearms crime?
Uh ok. So then you are saying more guns = more firearms crime. And proximity to a lot of guns = more firearms crime. I guess Canada must be pretty bad then, esp as you can just walk across the unfenced border?DurianIceCream said:
Oakey said:
Do you think the problem is the easy availability of guns from their next door neighbour finding their way into their country? If Scotland had a firearm policy like the US and there were 112 firearms for every 100 Scots do you think England would have more or less firearms crime?
Uh ok. So then you are saying more guns = more firearms crime. And proximity to a lot of guns = more firearms crime. I guess Canada must be pretty bad then, esp as you can just walk across the unfenced border?Gameface said:
Joey Ramone said:
Gameface said:
Have you seen it?
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that pointJ4CKO said:
Gameface said:
Joey Ramone said:
Gameface said:
Have you seen it?
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that pointThat said, obviously that was extreme.
My thinking is that people can do some horrific things to one another, and animals, if it is possible, in some time or place it has been done, and nowadays with every phone having a camera, it gets recorded.
History books at school had some vivid descriptions of what horrendous tortures were visited on people, the rack, being crucified, being hung, drawn and Quartered etc, but a description is a long way from seeing it, but that is now possible and is happening, seven billions people in the world and that can generate a lot of gore.
You can watch it, but once seen, it stays with you and I personally dont want to see it, I am a fairly well balanced 47 year old man, god know what stuff like this does to kids, I think it is actually much more damaging than porn, as excluding anything violent, deviant or under age it is just appendeges and orifices, a normal human function that most folk will partake of at some point, I remember being about 12 and seeing a bushy fanny in a magazine for the first time and it was a bit of a shock, one that I soon got over, worse was seeing my mates dads Police text books, some gory-ish murder and autopsy photos, they were a few black and white stills and Remember it but someone being hacked up, alive, that is so, so disturbing. My mum used to get British Medical Association videos from work to use as blank tapes, one had an autopsy that appeared after our programme so me and my cousin watched it, freaked us a bit but we were curious, got over it as we knew the guy had died and it was medical but it did have an effect, not sure anyone should see amatuer Mexican autopsies on living subjects.
But this gore, most people could go their whole life without seeing anything of its ilk, people in the forces or the emergency services will see things like that and many of them can end up needing counselling, these folk will by and large have a higher tolerance for death and injury but it can find and breach their limit, what chance do kids have.
We had, in the eighties video nasties and some pretty gory horror films, but once past about 12, you know it isnt real, it might rattle you but you know it is actors, make up, film and stuff, a camera phone video of someone having their head hacked off is an entirely different proposition.
So, my opinion is, just because you can watch them, dont !
History books at school had some vivid descriptions of what horrendous tortures were visited on people, the rack, being crucified, being hung, drawn and Quartered etc, but a description is a long way from seeing it, but that is now possible and is happening, seven billions people in the world and that can generate a lot of gore.
You can watch it, but once seen, it stays with you and I personally dont want to see it, I am a fairly well balanced 47 year old man, god know what stuff like this does to kids, I think it is actually much more damaging than porn, as excluding anything violent, deviant or under age it is just appendeges and orifices, a normal human function that most folk will partake of at some point, I remember being about 12 and seeing a bushy fanny in a magazine for the first time and it was a bit of a shock, one that I soon got over, worse was seeing my mates dads Police text books, some gory-ish murder and autopsy photos, they were a few black and white stills and Remember it but someone being hacked up, alive, that is so, so disturbing. My mum used to get British Medical Association videos from work to use as blank tapes, one had an autopsy that appeared after our programme so me and my cousin watched it, freaked us a bit but we were curious, got over it as we knew the guy had died and it was medical but it did have an effect, not sure anyone should see amatuer Mexican autopsies on living subjects.
But this gore, most people could go their whole life without seeing anything of its ilk, people in the forces or the emergency services will see things like that and many of them can end up needing counselling, these folk will by and large have a higher tolerance for death and injury but it can find and breach their limit, what chance do kids have.
We had, in the eighties video nasties and some pretty gory horror films, but once past about 12, you know it isnt real, it might rattle you but you know it is actors, make up, film and stuff, a camera phone video of someone having their head hacked off is an entirely different proposition.
So, my opinion is, just because you can watch them, dont !
Edited by J4CKO on Sunday 28th January 23:17
Joey Ramone said:
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that point
I saw one yesterday, maybe the same one. Called Cartelification? It is on a members only website. The son is slashed and hacked across the chest, a hole dug with a knife and the beating heart is pulled out for him to view, before it is hacked off. The pain on his face, the anguish, the suffering, I hope he did something really bad to deserve this, but he probably just short changed a valued customer.
I could post some stills, but I’d be sooo banned in minutes....
There’s no end of them, Mexigore, they have their own name now. Cartel murdering and torturing and dismembering, brutal stuff.
Edited by King Herald on Sunday 28th January 23:17
King Herald said:
Joey Ramone said:
Father is beaten with a heavy piece of wood while being taunted, and is then decapitated. The son (we presume it is the son) is pinned to the ground, and is then skinned alive from the chest down, so that his internal organs are eventually showing. His ribcage is pulled apart, his lungs chopped up and his heart cut out, while he's still conscious. He dies at that point
I saw one yesterday, maybe the same one. It is on a members only website. The guy is slashed and hacked across the chest, a hole dug with a knife and the beating heart is pulled out for him to view, before it is hacked off. The pain on his face, the anguish, the suffering, I hope he did something really bad to deserve this, but he probably just short changed a valued customer.I could post some stills, but I’d be sooo banned in minutes.......
El stovey said:
I know we're all different but I’m really struggling to imagine why you’d want to watch that, the fact that you’re seeing this on some “members only website” sounds even more sinister.
People watch horror movies all the time, of people pretending to do the sort of stuff you see in Saw movies. This is the real thing, but without hours of dross and tedium.It is actually what is happening in the world, like the news uncensored, so to speak.
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