Mexican Drugs Gangsters Do Not Mess About...
Discussion
Pesty said:
But we can’t call it a s
t hole country or people will get offended.
Yeah, I think the offense was taken by the 99% of decent, hard working and law abiding folks that make up the populations of those countries.t hole country or people will get offended. I have met a lot of lovely people in Mexico, and Haiti. Referring to an entire county as 'a s
thole' because of the behaviour of some heavy-duty criminals is unhelpful, innnacurate and stupid.Voldemort said:
People who watch these videos should be treated by the law and by the rest of society as being on a similar level as paedophiles. They are disgusting people who should be prosecuted and punished for their disgusting anti-social behaviour.
'These videos' You mean torture videos? Ok then, where does a legitimately violent video turn into one that would make it onto your 'black list'? Technically, a fair number of the videos of British soldiers beating suspected Iraqi insurgents (to death, in some instances) count as torture vids. What about the footage of Marine A executing a wounded Taliban fighter. Or footage of WWII US Marines executing Japanese prisoners of war with flamethrowers? Or does the law only step in when the torture reaches a certain level i.e. decapitation? Would a video of a Saudi court sanctioned execution be considered comparable to a Narco vid?Genuinely interested.
Just to clarify, the thought of an animal being hurt makes my blood curdle, let alone actually seeing it happen. I simply couldn't watch that. I think that part of the reason for stomaching Narco vids is that the guy getting his head cut off is (almost) certainly a sicario or cartel member himself. The recent one, that featured a supposed father/son killing, I suspect that's not actually the case. Face it. If you were that sick, you'd kill the son first and make the dad watch.
Edited by Joey Ramone on Monday 29th January 10:33
Seriously amazed by the number of, apparently, adult males on here who seem to float through life in some sort of happy haze, pretending life is so sweet and clean an innocent. I remember the days when war movies only showed guys getting shot in the shoulder, and roughing it out with a grimace. All very clean and wholesome, family stuff.
Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
limpsfield said:
You’re protesting too much. It is weird - as are the musings of posting it in here.
Have you actually read how many nimbies are crying about my post, that merely stated I have watched such videos of the reality of the modern world? I am more shocked by the whimpering drama queens reactions here than I was by those videos.
King Herald said:
Seriously amazed by the number of, apparently, adult males on here who seem to float through life in some sort of happy haze, pretending life is so sweet and clean an innocent. I remember the days when war movies only showed guys getting shot in the shoulder, and roughing it out with a grimace. All very clean and wholesome, family stuff.
Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
We all know bad stuff happens, News is someone telling us it has happened.Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
What you’re doing is not keeping up with what’s going on, or being “worldly wise” you’re actively seeking out these terrible events and actually watching them for your own pleasure. You’re so into it that you’ve joined a dedicated website for it.
The fact that you can’t tell the difference between watching a horror film and seeking out horrific violent acts of torture to watch for real ought to be a warning to you.
King Herald said:
You seriously think people were killed or tortured just to make these Mexican cartel psycho killer movies? This is real world, this is what is actually happening, when you read about ‘cartel kills two people’, this is how it is done, not a gentle injection of poison to the arm.
Be nice if we all lived in a world of cuddly puppy dogs and gentle clean death, but it is not so.
Get sectioned. You are not all right in the head. Be nice if we all lived in a world of cuddly puppy dogs and gentle clean death, but it is not so.
Edited by King Herald on Monday 29th January 09:05
King Herald said:
Seriously amazed by the number of, apparently, adult males on here who seem to float through life in some sort of happy haze, pretending life is so sweet and clean an innocent. I remember the days when war movies only showed guys getting shot in the shoulder, and roughing it out with a grimace. All very clean and wholesome, family stuff.
Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
I know there's ugly behaviour in the world - I don't need to join a members-only website and watch torture live to know that.Then suddenly it all changed and everybody was screaming in agony with limbs blown off, incredibly detailed close ups of bone and flesh shattered and burned, what was that all about? And you all watched it with glee! Millions were made at box offices the world over. Why was that I wonder?
And how come sex is perfectly legal and respectable, we ALL do it, but it is illegal to show it in detail in cinemas. Murder and torture is totally illegal, and obviously upsets the pish out of lots of people, yet is it portrayed in all its fake gory glory in graphic detail every day of the week in movies?? Answer me that, all you cotton wool coated namby pambies.
I thought PH members were grown up adults, mature and worldly wise, but it is pretty apparent we have a certain few teenagers here still hanging on their mothers aprons.
Did you know that in some countries people often die of simple illness and injury because they can’t afford to go to hospital? Or is that also too much of a shock to the system for you?
But anyway, what was the title of this thread again? Mexican drug gangsters do not mess about. Nope, they sure don’t.
To pick up on your sex analogy - would you sign up to a rape video site and watch that for enjoyment?
If not, why is it different to watching people being tortured and killed?
You call people who don't want to watch torture "namby pamby" and "children" : I call someone who watches videos of real torture and murder for enjoyment a very sick and f
ked-up individual. El stovey said:
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The fact that you can’t tell the difference between watching a horror film and seeking out horrific violent acts of torture to watch for real ought to be a warning to you.
I love the drama laden turgid rhetoric “seeking out horrific acts of torture”. The fact that you can’t tell the difference between watching a horror film and seeking out horrific violent acts of torture to watch for real ought to be a warning to you.
You don’t seem at all worried about people going to the movies to “seek out expensively made horrific acts depicting torture or murder”.
I personally think anybody paying money to watch a Saw movie is a bit disturbed.
King Herald said:
I love the drama laden turgid rhetoric “seeking out horrific acts of torture”.
You don’t seem at all worried about people going to the movies to “seek out expensively made horrific acts depicting torture or murder”.
I personally think anybody paying money to watch a Saw movie is a bit disturbed.
Let's spin it another way then. Out of interest what would you not watch on the internet? I would imagine pretty much anything is available if you search hard enough, and lots of things can be classified as 'realities of the modern world'.You don’t seem at all worried about people going to the movies to “seek out expensively made horrific acts depicting torture or murder”.
I personally think anybody paying money to watch a Saw movie is a bit disturbed.
King Herald said:
Have you actually read how many nimbies are crying about my post, that merely stated I have watched such videos of the reality of the modern world?
I am more shocked by the whimpering drama queens reactions here than I was by those videos.
Yep, people who find it odd that you would sign up to a website to watch gore videos and then refer to the non-gore bits of films as "dross and tedium" are the weird ones. Deffo.I am more shocked by the whimpering drama queens reactions here than I was by those videos.
King Herald said:
I love the drama laden turgid rhetoric “seeking out horrific acts of torture”.
You don’t seem at all worried about people going to the movies to “seek out expensively made horrific acts depicting torture or murder”.
I personally think anybody paying money to watch a Saw movie is a bit disturbed.
One question I would ask that although you have stated that very gruesome films exist such as Saw and worse, they are actors and go home when the filming is finished. We know that, the actors know that.You don’t seem at all worried about people going to the movies to “seek out expensively made horrific acts depicting torture or murder”.
I personally think anybody paying money to watch a Saw movie is a bit disturbed.
I am struggling to understand why this is being compared to genuine films where people meet such grisly ends, they are not fiction.
We all get that these exist and this happens in the real world, I just don't understand how they can be compared.
Perhaps I have led a sheltered life, I cannot watch horrors or anything like that so perhaps I will never get it.
Doesn't it make a difference to you that this isn't fiction, the terror is real?
sir humphrey appleby said:
Doesn't it make a difference to you that this isn't fiction, the terror is real?
It is shocking, horrific, often I cannot watch some at all. I feel for the people involved. But it is not like I sit at a screen fapping at it 12 hours a day, watching anything that comes up. Most of the videos are actually of accidents, not torture or murder. But it happens, it IS the real world. How many shows on TV are based on terrible accidents and disasters, crashes etc, and people watch them in their millions. With the disclaimer “no people were hurt in these videos” posted at the end, because people are scared of reality. If they realised they had watched someone die they would be mortified. They want to see carnage, but don’t want to see TOO much detail, because it upsets their feeble sensibilities.
I do find it touching that so many people are genuinely concerned about my viewing habits.
Thanks guys, warm glow etc etc.
Now trot on, other threads to critique on, I’m sure you have something else to do with your time.
Edited by King Herald on Monday 29th January 10:40
It's not like you're watching them for the plot or the quality of the camera work.
It's a bit like a scat pron film - lots of people might watch a bit by accident or curiosity. Most will end up either disgusted or bored by it. Only a special few watch all the way to the end and can recount the details.
It's a bit like a scat pron film - lots of people might watch a bit by accident or curiosity. Most will end up either disgusted or bored by it. Only a special few watch all the way to the end and can recount the details.
Problem is, I suspect that there a large number of people out there that have never watched a Narco torture vid (or similar) in their entire lives, who appear utterly normal, and yet who gleefully maltreat other human beings in the most depraved ways possible
Then there are those who watch Narco vids and then go about the rest of their lives in entirely peaceable, amicable fashion.
Statistically, it is pretty much guaranteed that PH is home to a number of non-torture vid watching child abusers.
Then there are those who watch Narco vids and then go about the rest of their lives in entirely peaceable, amicable fashion.
Statistically, it is pretty much guaranteed that PH is home to a number of non-torture vid watching child abusers.
KingHerald.
The problem with things like a members-only website is that you are surrounded by like-minded people and you begin to believe your mindset is normal because seemingly so many other people feel the same. The reality is, though, is that a handful of people from the billions in the world are your fellow members.
Meanwhile, out in the real world every single person is telling you that it is fked up and you have mental issues. Every single person.
Not one person here is agreeing with you.
The fact that you believe that enjoying watching someone getting their heart cut out is equivalent to watching a horror film, but better, is a perfect example of psychotic tendencies. A complete absence of empathy for the victim of the video and getting off on watching it.
You think you are the one talking sense here, but to all of us you are no different to someone on a members-only child porn website laughing at us because we are not in the real-world and that it is completely normal. (Before you have a hissy fit I am not likening you to a paedo, I am making an extreme point because if there was a paedo boasting on this thread you would be utterly horrified. That's the only analogy I think I can use to make you see how we are all looking at you)
The problem with things like a members-only website is that you are surrounded by like-minded people and you begin to believe your mindset is normal because seemingly so many other people feel the same. The reality is, though, is that a handful of people from the billions in the world are your fellow members.
Meanwhile, out in the real world every single person is telling you that it is f
ked up and you have mental issues. Every single person.Not one person here is agreeing with you.
The fact that you believe that enjoying watching someone getting their heart cut out is equivalent to watching a horror film, but better, is a perfect example of psychotic tendencies. A complete absence of empathy for the victim of the video and getting off on watching it.
You think you are the one talking sense here, but to all of us you are no different to someone on a members-only child porn website laughing at us because we are not in the real-world and that it is completely normal. (Before you have a hissy fit I am not likening you to a paedo, I am making an extreme point because if there was a paedo boasting on this thread you would be utterly horrified. That's the only analogy I think I can use to make you see how we are all looking at you)
Hasn't the 'people who watch videos but don't do stuff vs. people who do stuff but don't watch videos' argument been done before?
Usually around trying to argue that watching or being in possession of certain specialist highly illegal material doesn't actually make you a bad person like those other perverts.
Usually around trying to argue that watching or being in possession of certain specialist highly illegal material doesn't actually make you a bad person like those other perverts.
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