Jimmy Savile

[Pints]

Sandi Toksvig too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19861146

[z4me]

Sandi Toksvig! Christ, Stevie Wonder must be in on it too !

[number 46]

Given other info on here and the web I get the impression that F is another famous Star?

[Lost_BMW]

z4me said:

Sandi Toksvig! Christ, Stevie Wonder must be in on it too !

Cruel... but funny!

[thehawk]

I always thought Sandi Toksvig was a man, I wasn't far wrong.

[V8mate]

martin84 said:

Dr Jekyll said:

So who is it?

I could tell you but if I get done for contempt of court again I'm going to prison.

Write the name out backwards. The rozzers will never get that.

[RYH64E]

number 46 said:

Given other info on here and the web I get the impression that F is another Famous Star?

Clue above, if true? Can't be him, he's denied it.

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/freddie_starr...

Edited by RYH64E on Sunday 7th October 15:42

[Lost_BMW]

Dr Jekyll said:

Todays Sunday Times quotes a witness as describing 3 celebrities described as JS, G and F molesting young girls.

They've since confirmed JS was Saville and G was Glitter, but apparently F can't be named for legal reasons.

So who is it?

Couldn't possibly be as obvious of them to use JS for Jimmy Saville, G for Glitter and F for, well F for..?

Surely not that signposted, or are they being deliberately 'deliberate'?

[Dr Jekyll]

Lost_BMW said:

Couldn't possibly be as obvious of them to use JS for Jimmy Saville, G for Glitter and F for, well F for..?

Surely not that signposted, or are they being deliberately 'deliberate'?

Must admit my first thought was that the Star in question had a name beginning with F, but I just wondered if there were any other candidates.

[Oakey]

Derek Smith said:

I won't hear a word against Stalin. He was never convicted of anything when he was alive.

Al Capone was only convicted of tax evasion, how dare people call him a gangster when all he did was get sloppy with his tax returns

[Super Slo Mo]

Dr Jekyll said:

Lost_BMW said:

Couldn't possibly be as obvious of them to use JS for Jimmy Saville, G for Glitter and F for, well F for..?

Surely not that signposted, or are they being deliberately 'deliberate'?

Must admit my first thought was that the Star in question had a name beginning with F, but I just wondered if there were any other candidates.

An individual was named and interviewed in yesterday's Telegraph, as someone has named him as being present at one 'session'. His name fits the description above, but he vehemently denies it, plausibly in my view, but you'd need to read it and draw your own conclusions.

I worry slightly that we're now likely to get some malicious accusations based on nothing more than attention seeking, or vivid imaginations. It's going to be all but impossible to prove either way, but in the meantime, it'll be disappointing if innocent people end up getting smeared because of one or two individual's misdemeanours.

[number 46]

The plot thickens, Starrs denial does seem pretty strong. I.e not the usual non specific 'I've done nothing wrong' type of statement. Of course F could refer to the surname of the 3rd man, that opens up generations of posibilities!! Usually the papers like to give clues even if that can,t actually name the person. I guess will well have to wait and see

Edited by number 46 on Sunday 7th October 16:07

[chris watton]

Dr Jekyll said:

Must admit my first thought was that the Star in question had a name beginning with F, but I just wondered if there were any other candidates.

Florence, from Florence and the Machine? Sound's just like him!

[RYH64E]

number 46 said:

The plot thickens, Starrs denial does seem pretty strong. I.e not the usual non specific 'I've done nothing wrong' type of statement. Of course F could refer to the surname of the 3rd man, that opens up generations of posibilities!! Usually the papers like to give clues even if that can,t actually name the person. I guess will well have to wait and see

The allegation would appear to be directed at Starr, whether he did or not is obviously a different question. I linked an article above that named him, the girl in question, and Savile.

article said:

Veteran comedian Freddie Starr has denied allegations he attempted to grope an underage girl in the 1970s.

The funnyman has dismissed Karin Ward's allegation that he tried to touch her breasts when she was 14, while visiting late entertainer Sir Jimmy Savile at the BBC Television Centre in London.

[CooperD]

Looks like the trust that carries his name are considering a change of title. Not surprised really.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19863322

[Digby]

I just went looking for a song on youtube and clicked this link..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPZYxVXSOFc&fea...

Couldn't help but wonder what he was thinking..

[groak]

Alvin Lee ? (he was pretty upfront about it

Mind you, the number of cover versions over the years from S-B williamson to yardbirds to TYA would probably fill several docks with underrage predators....

Edited by groak on Sunday 7th October 17:14

[groak]

Frik said:

.... There certainly have been different attitudes to post-pubescent but underage girls in the past and maybe in the future. I doubt the law will change much though.

Sexual assault remains a crime, as does statutory rape. Whether the suspect is dead or alive there is a potential crime that needs to be investigated.

Dead or alive? Hmmm. Cops and courts are going to be busy. Where do we start? Caligula? Nero? Further back? UK only? Cases involving still living victims only?

Paedos and statutory rapists apparently have organised 'circles' and certainly have organised stimulative material including all over the internet. Now a pantheon of well-loved celebrity indulgers starts emerging. Well-worn path to acceptability I'd say. Am I wrong? is the genie going back into the bottle?

[JuniorD]

Well I certainly wouldn't be surprised if one day the age of consent is lowered still further. It won't change what constitutes rape but it at the stroke of a pen a fair amount of otherwise noncey activity would be suddenly legal. Politicians will be able to sleep soundly at night in the arms of their little rent boys.

[Mr Happy]

JuniorD said:

Well I certainly wouldn't be surprised if one day the age of consent is lowered still further. It won't change what constitutes rape but it at the stroke of a pen a fair amount of otherwise noncey activity would be suddenly legal. Politicians will be able to sleep soundly at night in the arms of their little rent boys.

Have there been any documented cases of politicians using under-age rent boys, or is that all supposition on your part?