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Wacky Racer said:
nail_it said:
CoinSl0t said:
I remember as kids we used to skateboard down on Bournemouth sea front, next to the pier.
Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to f
k off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.
A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old bd took his secrets to the grave with him as well.
I remember the nasty creep Ken Bailey when I was growing up in Bournemouth!Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to f
k off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old b
d took his secrets to the grave with him as well.He would be everywhere dressed in his attention seeking outfits, football matches, parks etc
Where kids were......so was Bailey.
My parents stopped me ice skating at the old rink in Westover Road as he starting turning up there on a Saturday morning when us kids were having our lessons etc. He would be leaning over the balcony watching us. Broke my heart stopping those lessons and free skating afterwards
nail_it said:
Wacky Racer said:
nail_it said:
CoinSl0t said:
I remember as kids we used to skateboard down on Bournemouth sea front, next to the pier.
Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to fk off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.
A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old bd took his secrets to the grave with him as well.
I remember the nasty creep Ken Bailey when I was growing up in Bournemouth!Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to f
k off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old b
d took his secrets to the grave with him as well.He would be everywhere dressed in his attention seeking outfits, football matches, parks etc
Where kids were......so was Bailey.
My parents stopped me ice skating at the old rink in Westover Road as he starting turning up there on a Saturday morning when us kids were having our lessons etc. He would be leaning over the balcony watching us. Broke my heart stopping those lessons and free skating afterwards
HoHoHo said:
Could there be any other way now we know WTF has happened?
Again, I'm amazed there's no investigation to establish who else may have been aware and simply kept quiet.
Perhaps we should watch this space, I would wager there's some people in authority sitting there thinking they should keep their head down currently!
Today in Parliament on Friday from 7 mins 18 secs to 13 mins 51 secs:Again, I'm amazed there's no investigation to establish who else may have been aware and simply kept quiet.
Perhaps we should watch this space, I would wager there's some people in authority sitting there thinking they should keep their head down currently!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b047cdx0
Seems some want a 'learning lessons' type look at it with why the police and others didn't deal with sexual offences at the time, with Danczuk knowing who else besides Cyril Smith may have been having sex with young lads at Elm Guest House in Barnes wants people dealt with, though my interpretation could be wrong. Danczuk mentioned political networks of child abusers.
On Today yesterday they had a discussion about the effectiveness of Twitter and Social Media in achieving stuff, or whether it's people thinking they've done something by clicking on a link. At the end of the Today in Parliament bit I've linked to above it mentions the role the Exaro website has played in getting MPs to support Simon Danczuk MP. Checking the Exaro website there's a list of MPs supporting Simon Danczuk MP in his campaigns following the revelations about Cyril Smith:
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5282/pressure-bu...
There have been some comments here about Savile keeping his mother's corpse at home for five days before her burial or cremation and doubts about the wholesomeness of the relationship he may had with his mother. It's possible similar opinions were voiced over what Cyril Smith's relationship may have been with his mother. I wonder today if they'd been minors the relationships they had with their mothers would have raised any concerns and resulted in Social Workers and the Police being at their door for them to be removed from their parents and placed in care or with foster families?
I am thinking aloud wondering how that compares with police being involved with the neglected kids that were being fed and clothed but not washed and the 14 stone lad in Norfolk and also the mooted Cinderella Law. How many kids have been removed from their families as there's a possibility, or those with powers think there's a possibility, that the kid(s) could be an environment that may be comparable to that that caused Jimmy Savile and Cyril Smith? Does the number of interfering Social Workers, Police and busybodies outnumber parents that don't have the ability or willingness to raise their children properly?
Alucidnation said:
nail_it said:
Wacky Racer said:
nail_it said:
CoinSl0t said:
I remember as kids we used to skateboard down on Bournemouth sea front, next to the pier.
Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to fk off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.
A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old bd took his secrets to the grave with him as well.
I remember the nasty creep Ken Bailey when I was growing up in Bournemouth!Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to f
k off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old b
d took his secrets to the grave with him as well.He would be everywhere dressed in his attention seeking outfits, football matches, parks etc
Where kids were......so was Bailey.
My parents stopped me ice skating at the old rink in Westover Road as he starting turning up there on a Saturday morning when us kids were having our lessons etc. He would be leaning over the balcony watching us. Broke my heart stopping those lessons and free skating afterwards
He also had a series of school cross country races held at Bryanston School named after him. They were one of the main fixtures in the Dorset school cross country calendar, I expect he enjoyed the 'Inter Boys' and 'Inter Girls' races most...- just checked, they still go on now - was anything ever proven against him?
The latest stories about Saville and dead bodies reminded me of a short story I read a few years ago. It was by Irvine Welsh and was called 'Lorraine goes to Livingston' or something similar. It was pretty obvious that the main character was very closely based on Jimmy Saville and I couldn't understand how Welsh had managed to get away with writing such 'slanderous' stuff without getting sued. Now that this has come out, I realise that he got away with it because it wasn't slanderous, it was probably true. I only wonder how well known Saville's perversions were that an internationally known author could publish something like this and it wasn't picked up.
vanordinaire said:
The latest stories about Saville and dead bodies reminded me of a short story I read a few years ago. It was by Irvine Welsh and was called 'Lorraine goes to Livingston' or something similar. It was pretty obvious that the main character was very closely based on Jimmy Saville and I couldn't understand how Welsh had managed to get away with writing such 'slanderous' stuff without getting sued. Now that this has come out, I realise that he got away with it because it wasn't slanderous, it was probably true. I only wonder how well known Saville's perversions were that an internationally known author could publish something like this and it wasn't picked up.
With reference to not being picked up, I seem to recall stealth technology was found in either a Russian or Germany publication, and they had misses it, the Americans found it though.
vanordinaire said:
I only wonder how well known Saville's perversions were that an internationally known author could publish something like this and it wasn't picked up.
Virtually everyone already knew of Savile's perversions. Welsh was hardly divulging hitherto unknown facts. Bear in mind one of Welsh's fortes is writing of the perversions of people in positions of public authority/renown.
Vipers said:
With reference to not being picked up, I seem to recall stealth technology was found in either a Russian or Germany publication, and they had misses it, the Americans found it though.
Have BlueWikipedia said:
the team created a computer program which could evaluate the RCS of possible designs. The RCS-prediction software was called "ECHO 1". As tests with the program proceeded, it became apparent that edge calculations by the program were incorrect due to diffraction.[7] In 1964, Pyotr Ufimtsev, the chief scientist of the Moscow Institute for Radio Engineering, published a seminal paper titled Method of Edge Waves in the Physical Theory of Diffraction.[8] The work was translated by the Air Force Systems Command's Foreign Technnology Division; subsequently, Overholser incorporated elements of Ufimtsev's work to refine the software.[7][9] ECHO 1 allowed the team to quickly decide which of the 20 possible designs were optimal, finally settling on the faceted delta-wing design.
MrCarPark said:
He wasn't just a bloke though, he was knighted by the Queen and the Pope. That is a very big deal for most people, more than enough protection when he was picking on the weak and vulnerable.
No he was just a bloke. A knighthood means nothing. My next door eighbour's Dad is a knight. He£s just an old bloke who used to be in business. (And drives a green Matiz) Knighthoods do not give power in themselves.
The Pope thing...Hmm I have some deep reservations about the Catholic church. But that's probably more my prejudice.
As for renaming the thread. No. It illustrates how attitudes have changed towards this man, from being a loveable eccentric, to evil b
d.goldblum said:
vanordinaire said:
I only wonder how well known Saville's perversions were that an internationally known author could publish something like this and it wasn't picked up.
Virtually everyone already knew of Savile's perversions. Welsh was hardly divulging hitherto unknown facts. Bear in mind one of Welsh's fortes is writing of the perversions of people in positions of public authority/renown.
carinaman said:
Interesting first comment there.I wondered how long it would take, 3 days isn't bad going.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29076504
3 days later
..........what is it with these imbeciles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746370/Re...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29076504
3 days later
..........what is it with these imbeciles.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746370/Re...
Frik said:
If that level of tenuous association is enough to be considered unsuitable for the position then finding someone who is suitable may well be impossible.
The Mail can't resist an opportunity to attack Harriet Harman either can they? Or in fact any female labour politician.
They could always look outside London and the home counties. The Mail can't resist an opportunity to attack Harriet Harman either can they? Or in fact any female labour politician.
I would say that connection is more than tenuous - would it preclude her, for example, sitting on a jury for someone she knew as well as she knows the Brittains?
I agree about The Mail, but I am not going to suggest that HH doesn't deserve a kicking.
Westy Pre-Lit said:
I wondered how long it would take, 3 days isn't bad going.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29076504
3 days later..........what is it with these imbeciles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746370/Re...
It's almost as if the DM doesn't want the inquiry to take place. Is it, perhaps, they have worries about skeletons in the cupboard ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29076504
3 days later
..........what is it with these imbeciles.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746370/Re...
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