Jimmy Savile

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Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Martin350 said:
Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
I watched that when it was posted a while ago.

It's shocking to think that even in 1978 people like Lydon were expressing disgust about 'not being allowed to talk about it'.

Everyone knew but couldn't speak of it.

don'tbesilly

13,933 posts

163 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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NinjaPower said:
Martin350 said:
Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
I watched that when it was posted a while ago.

It's shocking to think that even in 1978 people like Lydon were expressing disgust about 'not being allowed to talk about it'.

Everyone knew but couldn't speak of it.
Same thing, but Lydon talking to Piers Morgan about the radio interview (link above)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycFr8bdGpo

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Gerry Sadowitz had a routine about it as well
Must be over 20 years ago.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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FredClogs said:
"How's about that then?"
You're slightly late with that one,have a gander at page 1...

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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In that clip Johnny Rotten starts of sating he'd like to kill Mick Jagger and 199 other people, and Jimmy Savile over rumours.

Randy Winkman

16,134 posts

189 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.

Evil Jack

1,619 posts

228 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Funkycoldribena said:
FredClogs said:
"How's about that then?"
You're slightly late with that one,have a gander at page 1...
TBF the programme puts an entirely new spin on that particular phrase...

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.
This is true.

Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".

Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.

She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.

hepy

1,267 posts

140 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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desolate said:
Gerry Sadowitz had a routine about it as well
Must be over 20 years ago.
A book by Irvine Welsh alluded to it around the same time. Didn't name him, but made it very obvious it was Saville.

I'm sure the Sadowitz routine was very family friendly!

Tony Starks

2,104 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Slightly off topic but still on topic, when are we going to see a US/Hollywood version of what has happened over here? Theres so many stories and rumours that allude to it, but no one seems to have spoken about it except the dude from Goonies, and then hes never actually named anyone.

tommunster10

1,128 posts

91 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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I personally found it incredible how sucked in Louis was. Even if he never thought he could ever of been the utter deviant he actually was, that scene where Saville is in Louis production offices and Saville is being very sexual to the women present was the point where as a 'boss' Louis should of stepped in and explained .

"these are my staff at work in a professional environment you cant go saying those things to them or taking off your clothes, oh and don't come back again unless your wearing more than some tiny shorts and see through vest Jim..."

But it was the equivalent of a boss inviting the boss of a big contract they are about to land and he turns up and starts being sexual with the female staff, you either leave it and get the contract, or you set pout your own moral code for your staffs sake... Louis chose to keep the vile on safe to keep him sweet because it was making Louis career...... as was pretty much everyone else.

"hey so Jim likes to fiddle with the young girls on the wards... well at least we get to come to work in a 10 million pound office...chill out, don't say anything..."


I have lost a lot of respect for Louis i'm afraid....

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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I don't see it as 'making his career', Louis was already established and successful by the first meeting, and he had become more so as time moved on. How many shows did Louis do on Savile, one, two?

kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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desolate said:
Gerry Sadowitz had a routine about it as well
Must be over 20 years ago.
1987, no YT vid though,due to being MASSIVELY obscene biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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kowalski655 said:
desolate said:
Gerry Sadowitz had a routine about it as well
Must be over 20 years ago.
1987, no YT vid though,due to being MASSIVELY obscene biggrin
There is downloadable audio out there. Search Sadowitz total abuse.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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NinjaPower said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.
This is true.

Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".

Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.

She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.
Yet she would probably disagree with you.

Grandad Gaz

5,093 posts

246 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
NinjaPower said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.
This is true.

Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".

Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.

She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.
Yet she would probably disagree with you.
True. That attitude was the norm in those days. You only have to watch some of the old "Carry On" films to realize that.

John145

2,447 posts

156 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Grandad Gaz said:
WinstonWolf said:
NinjaPower said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.
This is true.

Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".

Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.

She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.
Yet she would probably disagree with you.
True. That attitude was the norm in those days. You only have to watch some of the old "Carry On" films to realize that.
And also why today we have male dominated industries. The norm =\= acceptable

We are backward compared to our European competitors for female equality.

majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Brexit will cure that ?

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Grandad Gaz said:
True. That attitude was the norm in those days. You only have to watch some of the old "Carry On" films to realize that.
Or read the feminism thread. biggrin