Discussion
Halb said:
After watching the programme, it doesn't seem like Louis learned anything that could have revealed the crimes. Unlike the journalist from in the doc, don't see how Louis, the Beeb or the NHS (or any other organisation) can be held accountable from anything shown in this doc.
This.Savile was a creepy screwball, but I think people were blinded by his "charitable" work and overlooked the other stuff.
As the programme noted, Stoke Mandeville was just a few ramshackle huts years ago, now it is a top grade facility.
CaptainSlow said:
Nice to see the Corporation try to shift blame to the Daily Mail journalist.
Indeed. Out of all the people in the world they could have talked to about why they didn't go to the police (Dame Esther, loads of people on this thread, Lemmy from Motorhead, John Lydon, half of the posters on Popb
h, even my brother.) they decided to concentrate on a friend of Louis' mum who just happened to work for a paper hated throughout the BBC.I thought it was a pretty poor programme to be honest. Just an attempt by Louis to justify why he didn't spot Saviles issues and show his regret to some of the people who Jimmy had abused. Mind you, the ex-PA was clearly in a serious state of denial but as someone else on the show said, its difficult to erase all those memories from your history that you had invested so much in.
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
I watched it and thought it was ok, nothing earth shattering, but perhaps a reminder of how Savile managed to dupe so many people.
I personally think Louis is very good at what he does, playing a bit dumb to get people to spill the beans. The documentary he did on the Phelps family (Westbro Baptist Church) was excellent.
I personally think Louis is very good at what he does, playing a bit dumb to get people to spill the beans. The documentary he did on the Phelps family (Westbro Baptist Church) was excellent.
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
The people he abused were rather odd as well, so he clearly very carefully hand picked them knowing they'd never be taken seriously.
I mean the painter woman was who alleged he jumped through the window was almost as weird as he was!
Being abused in any manner, but especially that manner, is not terribly conducive to a solid mental state thereafter. I mean the painter woman was who alleged he jumped through the window was almost as weird as he was!
Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
Martin350 said:
Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
I watched that when it was posted a while ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
It's shocking to think that even in 1978 people like Lydon were expressing disgust about 'not being allowed to talk about it'.
Everyone knew but couldn't speak of it.
NinjaPower said:
Martin350 said:
Interesting comments, particularly around 50 seconds in, from John Lydon in an interview from 1978!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
I watched that when it was posted a while ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ahuiRCs8k
It's shocking to think that even in 1978 people like Lydon were expressing disgust about 'not being allowed to talk about it'.
Everyone knew but couldn't speak of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lycFr8bdGpo
Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".
Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.
She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.
Slightly off topic but still on topic, when are we going to see a US/Hollywood version of what has happened over here? Theres so many stories and rumours that allude to it, but no one seems to have spoken about it except the dude from Goonies, and then hes never actually named anyone.
I personally found it incredible how sucked in Louis was. Even if he never thought he could ever of been the utter deviant he actually was, that scene where Saville is in Louis production offices and Saville is being very sexual to the women present was the point where as a 'boss' Louis should of stepped in and explained .
"these are my staff at work in a professional environment you cant go saying those things to them or taking off your clothes, oh and don't come back again unless your wearing more than some tiny shorts and see through vest Jim..."
But it was the equivalent of a boss inviting the boss of a big contract they are about to land and he turns up and starts being sexual with the female staff, you either leave it and get the contract, or you set pout your own moral code for your staffs sake... Louis chose to keep the vile on safe to keep him sweet because it was making Louis career...... as was pretty much everyone else.
"hey so Jim likes to fiddle with the young girls on the wards... well at least we get to come to work in a 10 million pound office...chill out, don't say anything..."
I have lost a lot of respect for Louis i'm afraid....
"these are my staff at work in a professional environment you cant go saying those things to them or taking off your clothes, oh and don't come back again unless your wearing more than some tiny shorts and see through vest Jim..."
But it was the equivalent of a boss inviting the boss of a big contract they are about to land and he turns up and starts being sexual with the female staff, you either leave it and get the contract, or you set pout your own moral code for your staffs sake... Louis chose to keep the vile on safe to keep him sweet because it was making Louis career...... as was pretty much everyone else.
"hey so Jim likes to fiddle with the young girls on the wards... well at least we get to come to work in a 10 million pound office...chill out, don't say anything..."
I have lost a lot of respect for Louis i'm afraid....
NinjaPower said:
Randy Winkman said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
What it did show once again was what a truly horrible and incredibly devious man he really was.
And that for a long time, dirty blokes touching up young girls wasn't actually considered that big a deal.Up until last year, I used to work with a woman who will be in her 50's now, and she used to joke at work about "what the lads used to do to me years ago wouldn't be allowed these days".
Turns out that when she was in her 20's and 30's the guys she worked in an almost all-male workplace with would have no hesitations about groping her for fun on an almost daily basis. Grabbing her breasts suchlike.
She laughs about it now, but in all seriousness, she was repeatedly sexually assaulted. There isn't really any other way to put it.
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