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jaybirduk

1,623 posts

64 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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What a difference a few days make

before the program was broadcast
As the trustees of the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust, we are saddened by any proposed television documentary which alleges that the late Sir Jimmy Savile committed acts of underage sexual abuse.

The broadcast of such serious allegations, which by their very nature will be one-sided, may impact on the charitable trust and its endeavours.

after the broadcast
A CHARITY founded by Sir Jimmy Savile is considering changing its name as child sex abuse allegations continue to swirl around the late star.


McClure

2,172 posts

43 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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jaybirduk said:
What a difference a few days make

before the program was broadcast
As the trustees of the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust, we are saddened by any proposed television documentary which alleges that the late Sir Jimmy Savile committed acts of underage sexual abuse.

The broadcast of such serious allegations, which by their very nature will be one-sided, may impact on the charitable trust and its endeavours.

after the broadcast
A CHARITY founded by Sir Jimmy Savile is considering changing its name as child sex abuse allegations continue to swirl around the late star.
This kind of thing is sickening me as much as Saville himself. Everyone are still choosing their position based on protecting their own interests, and nothing to do with giving any thought the victims.

skinley

1,681 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
What a load of useless piffle and twaddle this all is.

I just wish similar energy was deployed at issues facing us NOW rather than raking up old nonsense from days long gone.
McClure said:
Everyone are still choosing their position based on protecting their own interests, and nothing to do with giving any thought the victims.
scratchchin

Cheib

9,968 posts

72 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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groak said:
I reckon in about 25 years paedophile will be where gay is now. Just another facet of normality which only a prejudiced bigot would condemn. Approval starts with cuddly and beloved celebrities being outed. After all, if someone as philanthropic and honour worthy as Uncle Jim the Kiddies Friend and Saint of Stoke Mandeville is a paedophile, what really can the harm be?
You seriously think paedopholia will be acceptable as a life choice in society ?

With reference to Uncle Jim's philanthropic side and his work for charity....if the allegations that have been made are proved it's clear that he abused the access that gave him to young girls. Which questions his motives for doing so.

It's also possible that he did it and continued to do it as a way of making sure that he was above suspicion and to enforce how powerful he was to his victims....certainly my criminologist next door neighbour thinks the latter is very likely.

Elderly

2,138 posts

135 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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skinley said:
90 I'd imagine, what's your point?
My point is that the scenario of: "At various times over its history, TOTP has used teenage "plants" in the main audience to get the kids dancing, excited etc. .................... but they were hired in and were regular attendees - so were not normal audience. "
is not one that I recognise from my DIRECT experience.

skinley

1,681 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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groak said:
I reckon in about 25 years paedophile will be where gay is now. Just another facet of normality which only a prejudiced bigot would condemn. Approval starts with cuddly and beloved celebrities being outed. After all, if someone as philanthropic and honour worthy as Uncle Jim the Kiddies Friend and Saint of Stoke Mandeville is a paedophile, what really can the harm be?
I hope I'm missing the hidden sarcasm in your post. If not you are a dangerous individual who should be euthanised or castrated before you can harm anyone's children. (assuming you haven't already?)


Oakey

18,330 posts

113 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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I read that comment more as a dig at homosexuals

skinley

1,681 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Elderly said:
My point is that the scenario of: "At various times over its history, TOTP has used teenage "plants" in the main audience to get the kids dancing, excited etc. .................... but they were hired in and were regular attendees - so were not normal audience. "
is not one that I recognise from my DIRECT experience.
No one else claimed to know this from DIRECT experience, what's your point? Are you claiming to have actually been there at the time?


Bonefish Blues

7,741 posts

120 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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McClure said:
This kind of thing is sickening me as much as Saville himself. Everyone are still choosing their position based on protecting their own interests, and nothing to do with giving any thought the victims.
A difficult one that, I have some sympathy with the charity's position, and even more with the recipients of its services, whatever they are, who will suffer when donations dry, as they inevitably will.

skinley

1,681 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Oakey said:
I read that comment more as a dig at homosexuals
laugh

Elderly

2,138 posts

135 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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skinley said:
Are you claiming to have actually been there at the time?
yes

Ozzie Osmond

17,027 posts

143 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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skinley said:
Would you prefer it all to be swept under the carpet? If so could you explain why?
Please pay attention - it's BEEN under the carpet for decades. The real question is, why do YOU want it swept OUT from under the carpet after all these years, whatever "it" may be?

Eric keeps banging on about the "victims". Where are they? The women who've come forward don't look like gibbering wrecks to me. What do you want - an apology from a dead man? Money from the taxpayer?

It can't be undone. He can't be punished. Get over it. It's too late.

Deal with TODAY.


skinley

1,681 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Please pay attention - it's BEEN under the carpet for decades. The real question is, why do YOU want it swept OUT from under the carpet after all these years, whatever "it" may be?

Eric keeps banging on about the "victims". Where are they? The women who've come forward don't look like gibbering wrecks to me. What do you want - an apology from a dead man? Money from the taxpayer?
It can't be undone. He can't be punished. Get over it. It's too late.

Deal with TODAY.
I want him dug up and hanged wink but I don't want everyone to pretend it didn't happen.

ETA. perhaps we should let the bloke who murdered Milly Dowler out of prison, after all, it didn't happen TODAY!!11!!!!

Edited by skinley on Saturday 6th October 23:51

Mr_B

7,280 posts

140 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Please pay attention - it's BEEN under the carpet for decades. The real question is, why do YOU want it swept OUT from under the carpet after all these years, whatever "it" may be?

Eric keeps banging on about the "victims". Where are they? The women who've come forward don't look like gibbering wrecks to me. What do you want - an apology from a dead man? Money from the taxpayer?

It can't be undone. He can't be punished. Get over it. It's too late.

Deal with TODAY.
I believe "it" is called rape, child rape.

maxfan

1,622 posts

40 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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I'm beginning to wonder if the whole of the St Winnifreds School Choir weren't buggered in the green room before they went on the show.

pacman1

7,287 posts

90 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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skinley said:
I want him dug up and hanged wink but I don't want everyone to pretend it didn't happen.

ETA. perhaps we should let the bloke who murdered Milly Dowler out of prison, after all, it didn't happen TODAY!!11!!!!
Interesting point. The manipulation of public perception by the powers that be..

Eric Mc

82,288 posts

162 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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Elderly said:
skinley said:
Are you claiming to have actually been there at the time?
yes
How many shows did you attend?

Did you attend for the entire run of the series which was from 1964 to 2006?

Over the life of the show they had different policies and ideas about how the show was run. In the early 1980s they had a deliberate policy of mixing their dancers with the audience - instead of them performing set staged routines to a particular song.


As well as reading about the history of the show, there have been various documentaries on the BBC about TOTP over the years where the different formats have been discussed.

OzzyR1

2,775 posts

129 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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As an aside, my best mate's dad shagged one of Pan's People.

Nothing remotely to do with this thread as she was in her twenties at the time but thought I would mention.

He did good, won't mention the name but it was the proper fitty biggrin

Sheets Tabuer

12,702 posts

112 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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This is gonna mess up BBC4s 70s TOTPs nights.

My auntie was on TOTPs in the late 60s, we have video of her with a massive beehive dancing away, she was 15 and hasn't mentioned being molested.

My brother was on Jim'll fix it too in the early 80s, no one touched him up either...

Edited by Sheets Tabuer on Sunday 7th October 00:25

number 46

534 posts

145 months

Sunday 7th October 2012
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The Sun says that a well know soap star was also fiddling with Sir Jim at TVC. wonder who ??