Jimmy Savile

[XCP]

he wasn't a mortuary worker though, he was a disc jockey. He should never have been allowed anywhere near a dead body.

[Bonefish Blues]

goldblum said:

A tad melodramatic. Can't decide whether that's a quote from a Shakespearean tragedy or Harry Potter. Either way some are getting a bit carried away as various posts on here push the thread towards possible inclusion on the 'most cringeworthy thread'. C'mom the guy's dead and mortuary workers have fiddled with corpses since time immemorial. Perks etc. Mainstream movies have even dealt with it. There's always been a bogeyman, according to your parents and folklore, and this time it's Savile. If anyone needs a quote from a movie something like 'The Evil That Men Do' is more appropriate.

Hmm. I try not to resort to hyperbole or melodrama, and take some care to try to be level-headed about things. Let me try again by prefacing the statements with it.

Dark, dark times indeed when for decade upon decade he was allowed, by those who knew about his proclivities, to behave in this way and when rumours seem to have been freely circulating.

I don't think that's melodramatic at all - nor do I think it was as I expressed it first time round, actually, read in the context of the statements I made.

[Shaolin]

Call me old fashioned but I think anyone fiddling with a dead body is pretty dark, whatever their job.

[goldblum]

XCP said:

he wasn't a mortuary worker though, he was a disc jockey. He should never have been allowed anywhere near a dead body.

Yes, that and his familiarity with Broadmoor's and other hospital authorities is extremely odd.

[TTmonkey]

I wish someone would change the thread title. As he's dead, he's no longer entitled to be referred to as 'Sir', which is why it hasn't been removed by the queen. Knighthoods do not carry on after death,


Suggestions for a new thread title please.....

[HoHoHo]

TTmonkey said:

I wish someone would change the thread title. As he's dead, he's no longer entitled to be referred to as 'Sir', which is why it hasn't been removed by the queen. Knighthoods do not carry on after death,


Suggestions for a new thread title please.....

'That fking nonce Jimmy Savile the has died, I hope he died in extreme pain and thank fk for that'

How does that look?

Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 28th June 17:46

[TTmonkey]

HoHoHo said:

TTmonkey said:

I wish someone would change the thread title. As he's dead, he's no longer entitled to be referred to as 'Sir', which is why it hasn't been removed by the queen. Knighthoods do not carry on after death,


Suggestions for a new thread title please.....

'That fking nonce Jimmy Savile the has died, I hope he died in extreme pain and thank fk for that'

How does that look?

Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 28th June 17:46

Concise and to the point.

[HoHoHo]

TTmonkey said:

HoHoHo said:

TTmonkey said:

I wish someone would change the thread title. As he's dead, he's no longer entitled to be referred to as 'Sir', which is why it hasn't been removed by the queen. Knighthoods do not carry on after death,


Suggestions for a new thread title please.....

'That fking nonce Jimmy Savile the has died, I hope he died in extreme pain and thank fk for that'

How does that look?

Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 28th June 17:46

Concise and to the point.

Could there be any other way now we know WTF has happened?

Again, I'm amazed there's no investigation to establish who else may have been aware and simply kept quiet.

Perhaps we should watch this space, I would wager there's some people in authority sitting there thinking they should keep their head down currently!

[saaby93]

What really does your head in is how you reconcile it with all the good things he did
Jim'll fix it brought a lot of joy in its day and many of these hospitals Stoke Mandeville etc probably wouldn't exist today or the kids/people that have been through them. Should they be closed now theyre tainted?
Passengers back on the trains again with his 125 adverts
Clunck click
How on earth do you untangle the untanglable?
Dreadful

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 28th June 23:47

[carinaman]

saaby93 said:

What really does your head in is how you reconcile it with all the good things he did
Jim'll fix it brought a lot of joy in its day and many of these hospitals Stoke Mandeville etc probably wouldn't exist today or the kids/people that have been through them. Should they be closed now theyre tainted?
Passengers back on the trains again with his 125 adverts
Clunck click.
How on earth do you untangle the untanglable?
Dreadful

I agree. There was an interview with a woman that grew up in a Children's Home in Surrey and was not she told to be nice to Savile because of his gifts and patronage? It seems almost like a business transaction. And it seems he may have figured in the investigation into the Yorkshire Ripper murders. In the last week or so there was a woman on Radio 4, saying she thought at the time that the Ripper (Sutcliffe) had a problem with women rather than prostitutes.

And does what happened and the case that Simon Danczuk MP is pushing fit with the British attitude about paying for sex and moves in other EU countries to criminalise paying for sex? Does demonising paying for sex lead to stuff like Jimmy Savile and other people with power and influence be they 'celebs' or members of organised religions or political parties getting sex without a transparent and upfront transaction?

I don't know if being more grown up and tolerant about paying for sex would remove some of the stigma, and even if it did it may do nothing about those that have sexual preferences towards minors.

I don't know if prudish, puritanical attitudes to sex benefits perverts hiding in clear view?

Edited by carinaman on Saturday 28th June 21:35

[MrCarPark]

wildcat45 said:

I still don't get how he got away with it. The guy was just a bloke, he did not posess magical powers......but he wore a cloak of invisibility somehow.

He wasn't just a bloke though, he was knighted by the Queen and the Pope. That is a very big deal for most people, more than enough protection when he was picking on the weak and vulnerable.

[Halb]

He's like a Big Boss from a literary work. His far reaching fingers in so many pies, ensuring his defence at the highest order.

[Vipers]

MrCarPark said:

wildcat45 said:

I still don't get how he got away with it. The guy was just a bloke, he did not posess magical powers......but he wore a cloak of invisibility somehow.

He wasn't just a bloke though, he was knighted by the Queen and the Pope. That is a very big deal for most people, more than enough protection when he was picking on the weak and vulnerable.

Knighted by the pope?

[MrCarPark]

Vipers said:

MrCarPark said:

wildcat45 said:

I still don't get how he got away with it. The guy was just a bloke, he did not posess magical powers......but he wore a cloak of invisibility somehow.

He wasn't just a bloke though, he was knighted by the Queen and the Pope. That is a very big deal for most people, more than enough protection when he was picking on the weak and vulnerable.

Knighted by the pope?

Savile was honoured with a Papal knighthood by being made a Knight Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of Saint Gregory the Great (KCSG) by Pope John Paul II in 1990.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Honours_...

[smegmore]

MrCarPark said:

Savile was honoured with a Papal knighthood by being made a Knight Commander of the Pontifical Equestrian Order of Saint Gregory the Great (KCSG) by Pope John Paul II in 1990.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Honours_...

A new one on me, too

Halb said:

He's like a Big Boss from a literary work. His far reaching fingers in so many pies, ensuring his defence at the highest order.

My bold.

How true.

[MrCarPark]

I didn't know this until I re-read Wikipedia:

He was made a life member of the British Gypsy Council in 1975, becoming the first "outsider" to be made a member.


His tentacles were indeed far-reaching...

[smegmore]

MrCarPark said:

I didn't know this until I re-read Wikipedia:

He was made a life member of the British Gypsy Council in 1975, becoming the first "outsider" to be made a member.


His tentacles testicles were indeed far-reaching...

You got that right.

[andrewws]

I have not until now commented on this despicable man but now I will, my relatives are all from Yorkshire and were familiar with Mr Savile and how he behaved and presented himself to the world.

This was over 20/30 years ago, and at the time he was doing his Jim will fix it stuff and parading round as the hospital porter and saviour of Stoke Mandeville and other saintly deeds. I remember once my aunt was once sat in front of the TV watching Jim Will Fix It and stated that this man was poison, and that he had an evil hold on everyone around him. God help you if you crossed him, he had a network of nasty cronies that would break you legs if you questioned him. How can a man be so powerful and get away with it? My feelings go out to his victims, it must have been terrible to live with the memory of what this man had done to them and got away with it.

Have they dug him up yet? He was buried under tons of concrete, facing at 45 degrees toward the sea. I have a new Kango hammer if anyone wants to join me for a few days digging!!!

[anonymous-user]

i am mortified even the dead weren't out of the reaches of the devil himself.

mr ed would be turning in his grave.

http://www.independent.co.uk/video/?videoid=364349...

Savile 'performed sex acts with dead'

[Wacky Racer]

nail_it said:

CoinSl0t said:

I remember as kids we used to skateboard down on Bournemouth sea front, next to the pier.

Every now and again Savilebeast would appear, offering sweets and money to some of the younger lads (I was 14ish at the time), but us older lads used to tell him to fk off, we didn't like the old nonce, but I don't remember exactly how we knew he was a nonce, we just knew he was up to no good.

A local 'celebrity' Ken Bailey was also well known for touching up kids, dirty old bd took his secrets to the grave with him as well.

I remember the nasty creep Ken Bailey when I was growing up in Bournemouth!
He would be everywhere dressed in his attention seeking outfits, football matches, parks etc
Where kids were......so was Bailey.
My parents stopped me ice skating at the old rink in Westover Road as he starting turning up there on a Saturday morning when us kids were having our lessons etc. He would be leaning over the balcony watching us. Broke my heart stopping those lessons and free skating afterwards

I used to live In Bournemouth back in 1972, and often saw Ken Bailey hanging around the beach area close by the pier in his "England" outfit, I thought what a fruitcake......