Jimmy Savile

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skinley

1,681 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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southendpier said:
he had a lot of followers and could do no wrong, the messiah, for some, boring beardy to others.
NEWS FLASH JUST IN FROM OUR ROVING REPORTER IN SOUTHEND.

Not everyone likes the same things. SHOCK, HORROR.


groak

3,254 posts

178 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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I reckon in about 25 years paedophile will be where gay is now. Just another facet of normality which only a prejudiced bigot would condemn. Approval starts with cuddly and beloved celebrities being outed. After all, if someone as philanthropic and honour worthy as Uncle Jim the Kiddies Friend and Saint of Stoke Mandeville is a paedophile, what really can the harm be?


Elderly

3,486 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
90% of what I "know" I have learned through reading, studying and NOT from direct experience.
So does your statement: "At various times over its history, TOTP has used teenage "plants" in the main audience to get the kids dancing, excited etc. " come from the 90% or the 10% ?

rohrl

8,712 posts

144 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Bitofbully said:
XCP said:
Why?
What's so special about Peel?
If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand.
John Peel was different from nearly all the other Radio 1 DJ's. Most of them were in the Tony Blackburn/Mike Read mould so accurately spoofed by Harry Enfield, which is to say they were utter wkers in love with the sound of their own voices with little interest in music. When I heard that John Peel had died I was in the car and I had to pull over to have a cry and that's never happened to me with anyone else other than Senna. I can't imagine I'll feel the same when DLT pops his hairy clogs or even one of the good DJ's like David 'Kid' (hopefully that nickname isn't extended) Jensen. Never meet your idols I suppose.

skinley

1,681 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Elderly said:
So does your statement: "At various times over its history, TOTP has used teenage "plants" in the main audience to get the kids dancing, excited etc. " come from the 90% or the 10% ?
90 I'd imagine, what's your point?

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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It comes from reading about how the programme was made.

If the source material is wrong, then I am wrong.

However, there is no reason to believe it is wrong. And it comes from a more credible source than a mere post on an internet forum.
Did you not realise that everyone in the audience was not always an ordinary audience member?
It was a technique also used by the earlier pop show "Ready, Steady Go".

Oakey

27,523 posts

215 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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My parents joined the audience of TotP back in the day and their recollection of it was the producers standing at the back shouting "DANCE YOU fkERS, DANCE"

The Hypno-Toad

12,249 posts

204 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Very slightly off topic.

It wasn't just girls they used to stir up the audience on TOTP. Quite clearly on late 70's/early 80's editions you can clearly see a young Danny Baker dancing in various bizarre ways to unusual songs.


Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Gary Glitter (aka Paul Raven) was an audience "winder-upper" on "Ready Steady Go". I shudder to think what went on there.

thetapeworm

11,192 posts

238 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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The local rag seems to be suggesting that Leeds is starting to distance itself from old Jim...


Yorkshire Evening Post said:
Sir Jimmy Savile’s high-profile legacy in his home city of Leeds was unravelling today as fresh sex abuse allegations were levelled against him.

Public figures and groups were keen to associate themselves with Sir Jimmy during his life and in the scandal-free months that followed his death.

But, with the number of women coming forward to accuse him of abuse now reported to have exceeded 40, the city is moving to distance itself from the showbiz legend and charity fundraiser.

The Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust has confirmed it is considering changing its name in the wake of the allegations.

A spokeswoman for the charity said the step had been suggested by “a number of members of the public”.

She told the Yorkshire Evening Post: “The trustees are currently considering all options.

“[They] will do all they can to ensure the charity’s beneficiaries are not adversely affected by the recent reports.”

[b]The Saviles Hall conference facility next to the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds yesterday appeared to have removed a section of its website relating to events at the venue that had been attended by Sir Jimmy.

An organiser of a Sir Jimmy-themed walking tour around Leeds has also said it is “very doubtful” that any more will take place.[/b]

Dozens of people had attended three Savile walks staged by tourist guide Ken Goor since April.

A fourth on Thursday night, however, failed to attract any inquiries, said Mr Goor.

Leeds-based supermarket giant Asda, meanwhile, confirmed it had stopped selling Sir Jimmy fancy dress costumes on its website.

The clothing was available to buy at £45 plus a delivery charge of £2.95 up until Thursday morning.

As reported in yesterday’s YEP, plans to include a lifesize image of Sir Jimmy in a steel artwork on a new cycle route in Leeds are now in doubt.

Proposals for a statue commemorating his life in Scarborough have also been dropped and a plaque outside his old home in the town taken down after it was vandalised.

Two archive editions of Top of the Pops featuring Sir Jimmy have been pulled from the BBC schedules.

The backlash against the DJ and television presenter has seen calls for him to be stripped of his knighthood.

Yesterday, though, a spokesman for the Cabinet Office said the posthumous removal of a knighthood was impossible.

He told the YEP that a person who is made a knight automatically becomes a Member of the Order of the British Empire.

Membership is on a lifetime-only basis, however, which means that when the recipient dies, their knighthood technically ceases to exist.

Abuse claims began to mount up against Sir Jimmy ahead of the broadcast of an ITV documentary on Wednesday night.

Exposure: The Other Side Of Jimmy Savile carried testimonies from a number of women who say they were indecently assaulted by the star when they were schoolgirls in the 1960s and 1970s.

More alleged victims have spoken out since the show aired and Scotland Yard has now taken the national lead in assessing the accusations.

Sir Jimmy died at his home in Roundhay last October, aged 84.

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Oakey said:
Not just that. He was a successful TV personality who, despite his wealth, lived with his mother until she died, spent 5 days with the corpse, preserved her bedroom and took her clothes to be cleaned once a year.

I'm sure Freud would have a field day with that.
Wasn't the whole "5 days with the corpse" thing easily explained away though? I've certainly heard him explain it in a plausible fashion.

Having said that, there are a LOT of very unsavoury rumours about his time as a hospital porter, but how anybody would know the truth defeats me! wink



skinley

1,681 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Very slightly off topic.

It wasn't just girls they used to stir up the audience on TOTP. Quite clearly on late 70's/early 80's editions you can clearly see a young Danny Baker dancing in various bizarre ways to unusual songs.
Counter strike!

Oakey

27,523 posts

215 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Very slightly off topic.

It wasn't just girls they used to stir up the audience on TOTP. Quite clearly on late 70's/early 80's editions you can clearly see a young Danny Baker dancing in various bizarre ways to unusual songs.
Funny you mention that, he's a Danny Baker programme on Audiences of TotP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt-B-nPemhk

Ha, it also confirms exactly what my parents said at 3m44s which also happens to show Savile all over some girl!



Edited by Oakey on Saturday 6th October 21:15

skinley

1,681 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Rollcage said:
Wasn't the whole "5 days with the corpse" thing easily explained away though? I've certainly heard him explain it in a plausible fashion.
He described the days after his mothers death as the best days of his life, because he he could finally have her "all to myself". yikes

skinley

1,681 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Gary Glitter (aka Paul Raven)
Paul Gadd.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

245 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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What a load of useless piffle and twaddle this all is.

I just wish similar energy was deployed at issues facing us NOW rather than raking up old nonsense from days long gone.

ALawson

7,814 posts

250 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Rollcage said:
Wasn't the whole "5 days with the corpse" thing easily explained away though? I've certainly heard him explain it in a plausible fashion.

Having said that, there are a LOT of very unsavoury rumours about his time as a hospital porter, but how anybody would know the truth defeats me! wink
Ouija board?

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

175 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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rohrl said:
Bitofbully said:
XCP said:
Why?
What's so special about Peel?
If you need to ask, you probably wouldn't understand.
John Peel was different from nearly all the other Radio 1 DJ's. Most of them were in the Tony Blackburn/Mike Read mould so accurately spoofed by Harry Enfield, which is to say they were utter wkers in love with the sound of their own voices with little interest in music. When I heard that John Peel had died I was in the car and I had to pull over to have a cry and that's never happened to me with anyone else other than Senna. I can't imagine I'll feel the same when DLT pops his hairy clogs or even one of the good DJ's like David 'Kid' (hopefully that nickname isn't extended) Jensen. Never meet your idols I suppose.
Mmmm... you'll probably be suicidal when Alex James goes then.whistle

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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skinley said:
Eric Mc said:
Gary Glitter (aka Paul Raven)
Paul Gadd.
As well.

In an earlier attempt at a pop career he called hiimself Paul Raven. He sang the part of one of the temple priests on the original album of "Jesus Christ Superstar" (1970) as "Paul Raven. During his stint on "Ready Steady Go" 1964-65) he was Paul Raven.

Supporting PlayersAnnette Brox - Maid by the Fire
Paul Raven - Priest
Pat Arnold - Background vocals
Tony Ashton - Background vocals
Peter Barnfeather - Background vocals
Madeline Bell - Background vocals
Brian Bennett - Background vocals
Lesley Duncan - Background vocals
Kay Garner - Background vocals
Barbara Kay - Background vocals
Neil Lancaster - Background vocals
Alan M. O'Duffy - Background vocals
Terry Saunders - Background vocals
Choir conducted by Geoffrey Mitchell
Children's choir conducted by Alan Doggett on "Overture"
The Trinidad Singers, under the leadership of Horace James, on "Superstar"

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

175 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Eric Mc said:
skinley said:
Eric Mc said:
Gary Glitter (aka Paul Raven)
Paul Gadd.
As well.

In an earlier attempt at a pop career he called hiimself Paul Raven. He sang the part of one of the temple priests on the original album of "Jesus Christ Superstar" (1970) as "Paul Raven. During his stint on "Ready Steady Go" 1964-65) he was Paul Raven.

Supporting PlayersAnnette Brox - Maid by the Fire
Paul Raven - Priest
Oh, you and your anti-Catholic 'thing'...