Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
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The Don of Croy said:
Ecstatic coverage of the Richmond by-election result last week - and why not?
Except the Tories didn't field a candidate and Labour lost their deposit (first time in over 100 years in London according to The Times). Rather puts a different slant on it?
And nice to hear the topical Now Show keeping up to date with a rant or two about Farage, but nothing to say on Fidel (who was a rather more current item and possibly even bigger). But would that spoil their message?
And just for balance one of the chaps on 'From Our Own Correspondent' trumpets his Sandanista credentials so we know he's a good bloke under that corporate makeover.
As anti-BBC bias as I am, I actually thought The Now Show was okay on Friday. They, for once, seemed to have a knowledgeable main guest rather than the usual bigots. Although they had those too. Anyone noticed how little host content is actually in the Now Show? It's mainly a propaganda box for guests with "extreme" views, ignoring the fact that the BBC has chosen to give them that primetime, repeated soapbox. Except the Tories didn't field a candidate and Labour lost their deposit (first time in over 100 years in London according to The Times). Rather puts a different slant on it?
And nice to hear the topical Now Show keeping up to date with a rant or two about Farage, but nothing to say on Fidel (who was a rather more current item and possibly even bigger). But would that spoil their message?
And just for balance one of the chaps on 'From Our Own Correspondent' trumpets his Sandanista credentials so we know he's a good bloke under that corporate makeover.
dxg said:
As anti-BBC bias as I am, I actually thought The Now Show was okay on Friday. They, for once, seemed to have a knowledgeable main guest rather than the usual bigots. Although they had those too. Anyone noticed how little host content is actually in the Now Show? It's mainly a propaganda box for guests with "extreme" views, ignoring the fact that the BBC has chosen to give them that primetime, repeated soapbox.
Yep, likewise I thought it was better than usual. Although how Hugh Dennis delivers the name of the show is getting more and more strangled, and is really starting to grate. dxg said:
As anti-BBC bias as I am, I actually thought The Now Show was okay on Friday. They, for once, seemed to have a knowledgeable main guest rather than the usual bigots. Although they had those too. Anyone noticed how little host content is actually in the Now Show? It's mainly a propaganda box for guests with "extreme" views, ignoring the fact that the BBC has chosen to give them that primetime, repeated soapbox.
I was pleasantly surprised by the guest too; actually seemed balanced and knowledgeable about both sides of the coin. I meant to make a note of his name as his book sounds very interesting.B'stard Child said:
Camoradi said:
I can picture the editorial meeting.
Mellisa: "Perhaps we should play down the Castro piece a bit, he did kill quite a lot of people too"
Julian: "Yes but it was all in the context of the vast improvements he made to people's lives."
Jeremy: "Good point Julian. As my Gran used to say "you can't make an omelette without murdering your political opponents""
Mellisa: "Perhaps we should play down the Castro piece a bit, he did kill quite a lot of people too"
Julian: "Yes but it was all in the context of the vast improvements he made to people's lives."
Jeremy: "Good point Julian. As my Gran used to say "you can't make an omelette without murdering your political opponents""
First laugh of the day - excellent
dxg said:
... They, for once, seemed to have a knowledgeable main guest rather than the usual bigots. Although they had those too....
They've had a different 'expert' every week this series, and it's a bit of a chance but they do seem to be erring towards an element of balance with the piece, then let the ranters 'go at it' for other 25 minutes.Listening to Radio 5 live covering PMs questions today was just painful.
The way they finished the show was golden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084crn3#play
Listen at 2h57 and 40 seconds.
Who are leave voters?
Apparently not labour or conservative, it is more culture wars, remainers are social liberal and open to the rest of the world where as leavers are just nostalgic, authoritarian, old fashioned and anti immigration.
They really don't get it do they.
The way they finished the show was golden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084crn3#play
Listen at 2h57 and 40 seconds.
Who are leave voters?
Apparently not labour or conservative, it is more culture wars, remainers are social liberal and open to the rest of the world where as leavers are just nostalgic, authoritarian, old fashioned and anti immigration.
They really don't get it do they.
gizlaroc said:
Listening to Radio 5 live covering PMs questions today was just painful.
The way they finished the show was golden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084crn3#play
Listen at 2h57 and 40 seconds.
Who are leave voters?
Apparently not labour or conservative, it is more culture wars, remainers are social liberal and open to the rest of the world where as leavers are just nostalgic, authoritarian, old fashioned and anti immigration.
They really don't get it do they.
From what I can tell there they had a guest on discussing a report outlining the above.The way they finished the show was golden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084crn3#play
Listen at 2h57 and 40 seconds.
Who are leave voters?
Apparently not labour or conservative, it is more culture wars, remainers are social liberal and open to the rest of the world where as leavers are just nostalgic, authoritarian, old fashioned and anti immigration.
They really don't get it do they.
Swiftly followed by a pro-leave guest.
What's the issue there?
desolate said:
From what I can tell there they had a guest on discussing a report outlining the above.
Swiftly followed by a pro-leave guest.
What's the issue there?
No, they were discussing Thornberry asking Lidlington whether May et al were going to get the UK to remain in the Customs Union. Swiftly followed by a pro-leave guest.
What's the issue there?
Lidlington said something along the lines of Labour all seem to be in utter denial about the referendum result and it shows just how out of touch they are with the British people.
The guest on the show brought up that report saying, somewhat shocked, 'it seems that the UK voted in the referendum based on their own views, not the views of the party they support.'.
It was the way it was said, it was cringeworthy.
As someone who hardly follows TV or radio news I find the BBC astonishing when I do catch it. I stopped on some "comedy" show on Radio 4 last week at about 6:30 in the evening. It was like the sort of comedy you would expect to hear in East Germany in the 1970s. Incessant Trump gags with barely a thought to whether they were actually funny. Simply slating Trump and his supporters was enough.
Presumably comedy shows are creative and don't have to even attempt impartiality so they let loose.
Which is fine for a self supporting comercial station but why on earth do we have a state broadcaster funded by a tax on television ownership producing this garbage?
The undead creeps on Have I Got News For You are even worse. I don't mind Hislop so much in some circumstances but that show is beyond caricature. The same daring rebels trotting out the same risque jokes about the same people for quarter of a century on state television and they seem to honestly believe they are some sort of edgy alternative show.
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Presumably comedy shows are creative and don't have to even attempt impartiality so they let loose.
Which is fine for a self supporting comercial station but why on earth do we have a state broadcaster funded by a tax on television ownership producing this garbage?
The undead creeps on Have I Got News For You are even worse. I don't mind Hislop so much in some circumstances but that show is beyond caricature. The same daring rebels trotting out the same risque jokes about the same people for quarter of a century on state television and they seem to honestly believe they are some sort of edgy alternative show.
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kers.gizlaroc said:
No, they were discussing Thornberry asking Lidlington whether May et al were going to get the UK to remain in the Customs Union.
Lidlington said something along the lines of Labour all seem to be in utter denial about the referendum result and it shows just how out of touch they are with the British people.
The guest on the show brought up that report saying, somewhat shocked, 'it seems that the UK voted in the referendum based on their own views, not the views of the party they support.'.
It was the way it was said, it was cringeworthy.
It was the guest the said it though - not the presenter.Lidlington said something along the lines of Labour all seem to be in utter denial about the referendum result and it shows just how out of touch they are with the British people.
The guest on the show brought up that report saying, somewhat shocked, 'it seems that the UK voted in the referendum based on their own views, not the views of the party they support.'.
It was the way it was said, it was cringeworthy.
So whilst I agree the guest seemed a bit crap, i don't think it's evidence of bias.
desolate said:
gizlaroc said:
No, they were discussing Thornberry asking Lidlington whether May et al were going to get the UK to remain in the Customs Union.
Lidlington said something along the lines of Labour all seem to be in utter denial about the referendum result and it shows just how out of touch they are with the British people.
The guest on the show brought up that report saying, somewhat shocked, 'it seems that the UK voted in the referendum based on their own views, not the views of the party they support.'.
It was the way it was said, it was cringeworthy.
It was the guest the said it though - not the presenter.Lidlington said something along the lines of Labour all seem to be in utter denial about the referendum result and it shows just how out of touch they are with the British people.
The guest on the show brought up that report saying, somewhat shocked, 'it seems that the UK voted in the referendum based on their own views, not the views of the party they support.'.
It was the way it was said, it was cringeworthy.
So whilst I agree the guest seemed a bit crap, i don't think it's evidence of bias.
desolate said:
It was the guest the said it though - not the presenter.
So whilst I agree the guest seemed a bit crap, i don't think it's evidence of bias.
It was the way the presenter was replying, almost like a 'Oh, so that explains why they voted....bless them.'So whilst I agree the guest seemed a bit crap, i don't think it's evidence of bias.
I thought it had been a pretty good show, and it ended with that and I just shrugged and chuckled.
BBC reporting this morning that the City of London is moving to Paris post Brexit and interviewed some French bird in an empty office. The story was actually they have had some enquiries and I am sure many businesses will be looking to protect themselves from all likely outcomes but to suggest they are getting in the packing boxes is nothing short of scaremongering
johnxjsc1985 said:
BBC reporting this morning that the City of London is moving to Paris post Brexit and interviewed some French bird in an empty office. The story was actually they have had some enquiries and I am sure many businesses will be looking to protect themselves from all likely outcomes but to suggest they are getting in the packing boxes is nothing short of scaremongering
You can't have it both ways, half of this forum have been saying for years that any change to the delicate little flowers in the 'city' will have them leaving our shore in droves, but now the BBC are mentioning it, suddenly it's scaremongering! eccles said:
You can't have it both ways, half of this forum have been saying for years that any change to the delicate little flowers in the 'city' will have them leaving our shore in droves, but now the BBC are mentioning it, suddenly it's scaremongering!
the suggestion is that they are ready to up sticks and move which is way way off the mark. johnxjsc1985 said:
eccles said:
You can't have it both ways, half of this forum have been saying for years that any change to the delicate little flowers in the 'city' will have them leaving our shore in droves, but now the BBC are mentioning it, suddenly it's scaremongering!
the suggestion is that they are ready to up sticks and move which is way way off the mark. And it's not exactly a 'half' thing either.
johnxjsc1985 said:
eccles said:
You can't have it both ways, half of this forum have been saying for years that any change to the delicate little flowers in the 'city' will have them leaving our shore in droves, but now the BBC are mentioning it, suddenly it's scaremongering!
the suggestion is that they are ready to up sticks and move which is way way off the mark. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff