Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
Roger Harrabin this morning, interviewed a farmer that was involved in CAP from the 70s. Roger managed to tell us that he'd been paid to remove hedges, then paid to put them back again (as if that was a good thing) and that the future of subsidies was not known. Then he stated, "But it's inevitable that they'll be reduced after Brexit." End of report. No evidence, no justification, it's just obvious isn't it.
Except it isn't, it's unknown and the strength of evidence is more in favour of the reverse position. Gross contribution goes to Brussels, net comes back. No gross, no net, means less money for French farmers and more for British farmers. The logical position is that subsidies would go up, without a change in policy. Given we don't know how/if policy will change, there's nothing inevitable t all and a balanced report would at the very least have justified the 'inevitable' reduction and given the opposing point of view.
Except it isn't, it's unknown and the strength of evidence is more in favour of the reverse position. Gross contribution goes to Brussels, net comes back. No gross, no net, means less money for French farmers and more for British farmers. The logical position is that subsidies would go up, without a change in policy. Given we don't know how/if policy will change, there's nothing inevitable t all and a balanced report would at the very least have justified the 'inevitable' reduction and given the opposing point of view.
t.jjlynn27 said:
Andy Zarse said:
jjlynn27 said:
So her opinion on economics should be less valid because she lied about who was driving? Did you come up with that all by yourself?
Oh don't worry, Price's economic judgment is absolutely appalling. One of those "wrong about everything " people, similar to David "Danny" Blanchflower.
Right and wrong at the same time. Honestly you could not make it up!
gizlaroc said:
But the BBCs take on this was "Farmers will lose out from Brexit where the only way they can survive is from EU subsidies."
He said that is why 19 in every 20 farmers he knows voted out, but it is the well known, big farmers that get all the press.
Sounds about right from what I've heard. My Uncle is a farmer and voted out as did most of his farmer friends. He said that is why 19 in every 20 farmers he knows voted out, but it is the well known, big farmers that get all the press.
Not sure if I'm just imagining it, but has anyone else noticed that the BBC seem to be using the term 'Tory' as opposed to 'Conservative' a lot more these days?
Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
Andy Zarse said:
jjlynn27 said:
Andy Zarse said:
jjlynn27 said:
So her opinion on economics should be less valid because she lied about who was driving? Did you come up with that all by yourself?
Oh don't worry, Price's economic judgment is absolutely appalling. One of those "wrong about everything " people, similar to David "Danny" Blanchflower.Right and wrong at the same time. Honestly you could not make it up!
blade runner said:
Not sure if I'm just imagining it, but has anyone else noticed that the BBC seem to be using the term 'Tory' as opposed to 'Conservative' a lot more these days?
Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
Yup, you're just paranoid. Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
The term has been extensively used in the media for years, but every now and again someone pops up and says 'ooo, they're using Tory, they must be biased/anti Tory'
blade runner said:
Not sure if I'm just imagining it, but has anyone else noticed that the BBC seem to be using the term 'Tory' as opposed to 'Conservative' a lot more these days?
Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
Quite right.Lots of reporting recently on 'Tory rebels' or talking about the 'Tory government' when I recall it always used to be just the plain old 'Conservatives'. All the coverage the SNP has been getting of late hasn't helped as they seem to like spitting out 'Tory' at every opportunity as if it's some kind of swear word, but I can't help feeling the BBC has picked up on this as well. Or am I just paranoid...?
I'm amazed us socialists... err I mean Labour supporters have been able to get away with it for so long.
BBC this morning kept comparing the 44% of our exports that went to the EU with the fact that EU exports to us are a mere 3% of GDP. Would be interesting to know what proportion of our GDP consists of exports to the EU, or what proportion of EU exports come to the UK. Still not a valid comparison of course because total EU exports are greater than total UK exports.
Rod Liddell really stuffs it to the Beeb over their leftist bias in the latest issue of the Spectator.
He headlines his Article "The real BBC shocker : occasionaly it isn't biased"
He brings out a point I certainly was not aware of and that the BBC is only required to be impartial regarding its news output, other programmes fall outside the guidelines, which is why the likes of Countryfile is laden with anti Brexit propaganda, as example.
Liddle relates that the BBc take no notice of trying to be impartial where they should be, so no surprise that they are far from it when they are not so required.
Going to be interesting when Ofcom takes over what was the BBC's own job in the next week or two , the BBC won't be able to say "We are impartial because we say we are" anymore.
He headlines his Article "The real BBC shocker : occasionaly it isn't biased"
He brings out a point I certainly was not aware of and that the BBC is only required to be impartial regarding its news output, other programmes fall outside the guidelines, which is why the likes of Countryfile is laden with anti Brexit propaganda, as example.
Liddle relates that the BBc take no notice of trying to be impartial where they should be, so no surprise that they are far from it when they are not so required.
Going to be interesting when Ofcom takes over what was the BBC's own job in the next week or two , the BBC won't be able to say "We are impartial because we say we are" anymore.
Hosenbugler said:
Going to be interesting when Ofcom takes over what was the BBC's own job in the next week or two , the BBC won't be able to say "We are impartial because we say we are" anymore.
I was not aware of this happening, that should be very interesting unless Ofcom is stuffed with the usual soft left public sector revolving door types.The BBC News website has an article about a Pole who has taken photographs of people across London and has recorded their thoughts on the subject of Brexit.
Talk about being London-centric and being totally out of touch with the rest of the nation. I always use the BBC as a source of news and haven't got a particular axe to grind with them in general, but the way they've treated Brexit is astounding! They just don't help themselves.
Talk about being London-centric and being totally out of touch with the rest of the nation. I always use the BBC as a source of news and haven't got a particular axe to grind with them in general, but the way they've treated Brexit is astounding! They just don't help themselves.
XM5ER said:
Hosenbugler said:
Going to be interesting when Ofcom takes over what was the BBC's own job in the next week or two , the BBC won't be able to say "We are impartial because we say we are" anymore.
I was not aware of this happening, that should be very interesting unless Ofcom is stuffed with the usual soft left public sector revolving door types.Hosenbugler said:
Rod Liddell
I have huge respect for this guy. Really enjoy his writing.And they have also been invited not to be intimidated by the emerging Ministry of Enlightenment.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brex...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brex...
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