Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
marcosgt said:
donna180 said:
I'd be happy to opt completely out of the BBC and just use Sky but that's just me.
I think the Govt, need to act now and act hard - after all, I'm sure Labour would do something if the situation were reversed. The BBC's bias is just comical now....
Ah, well there you have it.I think the Govt, need to act now and act hard - after all, I'm sure Labour would do something if the situation were reversed. The BBC's bias is just comical now....
You'll believe what Sky tells you, but not the BBC!
Maybe the BBC are biased or maybe you are and just aren't used to more objective reporting?
I take it you don't read the papers or are you under the impression that they're all totally impartial politically?
As for "Labour Red" - For God's Sake, for years the logos were white on a BLUE background? I assume you wrote to complain about that? Thought not... It's just a colour - I'm happier for them to spend license payer's money on programmes than on a full branding overhaul to appease your political paranoia...
M.
I prefer Sky and opt for it. I don't like the beeb but I can't opt out of it. It's simply a flat yearly tax on the poor.
Cameron should review and make the beeb self fund and scrap the fee - the Worldwide advantages/World Service bla bla bla.... are overstated esp. since English and Mandarin are now the defacto World languages....
It's not a proprietary interest Eric. The fact is that we are all forced to pay £150 a year to subsidise the prime Labour Party propaganda tool.
If I wasn't required to pay for it, I wouldn't give a damb what stance they took.
If I wasn't required to pay for it, I wouldn't give a damb what stance they took.
Eric Mc said:
Aren't they always.
I do think the British public take special umbrage aggainst "their" BBC more than the other channels because they feel they have a proprietory interest in it - which is absolutely true and correct - because they do.
I would prefer to have a flawed publicly owned and financed ad free service than a flawed privately owned channel run by a possible power crazed meglomaniac.
I do think the British public take special umbrage aggainst "their" BBC more than the other channels because they feel they have a proprietory interest in it - which is absolutely true and correct - because they do.
I would prefer to have a flawed publicly owned and financed ad free service than a flawed privately owned channel run by a possible power crazed meglomaniac.
It's not a proprietary interest Eric. The fact is that we are all forced to pay £150 a year to subsidise the prime Labour Party propaganda tool.
If I wasn't required to pay for it, I wouldn't give a damb what stance they took.
If I wasn't required to pay for it, I wouldn't give a damb what stance they took.
Eric Mc said:
Aren't they always.
I do think the British public take special umbrage aggainst "their" BBC more than the other channels because they feel they have a proprietory interest in it - which is absolutely true and correct - because they do.
I would prefer to have a flawed publicly owned and financed ad free service than a flawed privately owned channel run by a possible power crazed meglomaniac.
I do think the British public take special umbrage aggainst "their" BBC more than the other channels because they feel they have a proprietory interest in it - which is absolutely true and correct - because they do.
I would prefer to have a flawed publicly owned and financed ad free service than a flawed privately owned channel run by a possible power crazed meglomaniac.
chris watton said:
Certainly true. Also, I was listening to HIGNFY last night (whilst still working..), and all the jokes were at the expense of the Tory's and the US Republicans - Herman Cain getting a right thrashing (fair enough, I suppose, he may deserve it - I don't know..)
Then, after this, a comedy show was on, where the first 'jokes' were also political, this time Sara Palin and the Tea Party.
Watch it again on iPlayer, because you missed quite a bit.Then, after this, a comedy show was on, where the first 'jokes' were also political, this time Sara Palin and the Tea Party.
You missed Hislop taking some big swipes at the Labour MP on his team, then you missed Rich Hall talking about Obama before he mentioned Palin - ridiculing the Obama policy of 'hope'.
Indeed, Hislop gave a back-handed compliment to Cameron when he referred to the UK being on the outside of Europe when the Euro collapses and wondered if that was really a bad thing.
Comedians with a political side are often right-on lefties and unless you've been living under a rock until recently you'd already know that.
And yes, it would appear Herman Cain did deserve it. As for Palin, she's just hilarious.
Mon Ami Mate said:
If I wasn't required to pay for it, I wouldn't give a damb what stance they took.
I think that is what it boils down to really. That they are a state broadcaster funded through a direct tax, means that they should be apolitical. That doesn't mean they shouldn't cover political issues are the arguments surrounding them, but they should certainly do so in an even handed way, and should go out of their to make sure that is the case. A commercial broadcaster doesn't have the same obligation.I don't think the BBC is biased in favour of the Labour party in particular, but they are certainly 'liberal' left leaning and it happens that often agrees with the Labour party. I'm not sure that the bias there is even a deliberate policy, but rather than as a result of the make up of the people who work there. If the whole organisation is made up of people with a certain world view, then that organisations perception of balance is certainly going to be skewed in that direction. If you don't happen to agree with that world view then that bias is very obvious.
Interesting opinions... Here's a quote from a friend of mine:
"I've just watched the bbc coverage of the strike/protests: There was a section on skirmishes, then transport upsets, then following understaffed ambulance workers. After that there's an interview with an anti-protest MP which begins with a quote suggesting how irresponsible the protestors all are and asks him 'do you agree?', then it ends with a section from the p.o.v of the police. WHERE is the impartiality in this?"
Seems they don't agree at all. He has a 1st w/ honours from Oxford and was president of one of its more prestigious societies, and got consensus from quite a few people, mostly other Oxford grads who after a short conversation concluded that the BBC was in fact biased towards the right.
Personally I don't think the BBC overtly shows favour for one side or the other (perhaps a slight bias towards the Right now the Tories are in office), it's your own personal biases that colour your opinion of the BBCs broadcasting.
"I've just watched the bbc coverage of the strike/protests: There was a section on skirmishes, then transport upsets, then following understaffed ambulance workers. After that there's an interview with an anti-protest MP which begins with a quote suggesting how irresponsible the protestors all are and asks him 'do you agree?', then it ends with a section from the p.o.v of the police. WHERE is the impartiality in this?"
Seems they don't agree at all. He has a 1st w/ honours from Oxford and was president of one of its more prestigious societies, and got consensus from quite a few people, mostly other Oxford grads who after a short conversation concluded that the BBC was in fact biased towards the right.
Personally I don't think the BBC overtly shows favour for one side or the other (perhaps a slight bias towards the Right now the Tories are in office), it's your own personal biases that colour your opinion of the BBCs broadcasting.
Edited by Puffing Devil on Saturday 10th December 20:04
Ahonen said:
You missed Hislop taking some big swipes at the Labour MP on his team.
He didn't miss Hislop having a go at labour he just completely ignored itJust some people are so far up Camerons arse that anything other then a 24/7 love fest towards the tory party is seen as total bias towards the labour party. it some thing very similar to the professionally offended.
Its not the BBC that has an extreme left wing bias it is someone with a personal bias so far towards the tory party anything that is neutral is seen as left wing bias hence the BBC which have a slight left wing leaning are seen as a 24/7 love fest towards the communist party.
When someone thinks that the red logo is a secret message to vote labour then are your sure their view of the world isn't slight skewed
thinfourth2 said:
Ahonen said:
You missed Hislop taking some big swipes at the Labour MP on his team.
He didn't miss Hislop having a go at labour he just completely ignored itJust some people are so far up Camerons arse that anything other then a 24/7 love fest towards the tory party is seen as total bias towards the labour party. it some thing very similar to the professionally offended.
Its not the BBC that has an extreme left wing bias it is someone with a personal bias so far towards the tory party anything that is neutral is seen as left wing bias hence the BBC which have a slight left wing leaning are seen as a 24/7 love fest towards the communist party.
When someone thinks that the red logo is a secret message to vote labour then are your sure their view of the world isn't slight skewed
You're fixated by the red studio comment and repeating it but adding nothing to the debate.
The sooner there's a proper debate on the Beeb, and they get rid of the license fee, the better in my view. If they simply scrapped the whole BBC (it's just a vast public funded job creation scheme...), how much would they save per year - I think you'd find the answer would be a lot once the journalists had retrained or let them self fund with adverts....
[What's the left wing done in the last 15 years under Blair/Brown - a few pointless Wars, record public sector size crowding out the private sector, massive unfunded pension liabilities, Govt debt, artificial growth, a greater percentage reduction of our manufacturing base than under the Thatcher Govt, housing bubble.....]
Edited by donna180 on Saturday 10th December 20:53
thinfourth2 said:
Ahonen said:
You missed Hislop taking some big swipes at the Labour MP on his team.
He didn't miss Hislop having a go at labour he just completely ignored itJust some people are so far up Camerons arse that anything other then a 24/7 love fest towards the tory party is seen as total bias towards the labour party. it some thing very similar to the professionally offended.
Its not the BBC that has an extreme left wing bias it is someone with a personal bias so far towards the tory party anything that is neutral is seen as left wing bias hence the BBC which have a slight left wing leaning are seen as a 24/7 love fest towards the communist party.
When someone thinks that the red logo is a secret message to vote labour then are your sure their view of the world isn't slight skewed
I would suggest it is you that has his head up his arse if you can't see the blatant bias throughout most of the BBC - it is the main reason the BBC is now our least watched channel
The only thing the Beeb do that really annoys me (and this is indicative of news reporters generally IMO) is voicing quotes and opinions as facts before they even tell you who said them. How many times does the 18:00 news start with something like:
"The world is going to end today in a hail of fire and brimstone and everybody will die!"
(cue pause)
"That's the verdict of some complete f
king nobody who you wouldn't even trust with a biro".
Tell me who the opinion is coming from first, rather than presenting it as an absolute, FFS
"The world is going to end today in a hail of fire and brimstone and everybody will die!"
(cue pause)
"That's the verdict of some complete f
king nobody who you wouldn't even trust with a biro".Tell me who the opinion is coming from first, rather than presenting it as an absolute, FFS
donna180 said:
The sooner there's a proper debate on the Beeb, and they get rid of the license fee, the better in my view. If they simply scrapped the whole BBC (it's just a vast public funded job creation scheme...), how much would they save per year
And how much would we lose if the BBC was scrapped?Venture away from BBC1 and you will wide a wide range of utterly brilliant programming that the commercial sector wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
I seriously believe that the UK wouldn't be a world leader in the music industry if we didn't have radio 1 and the likes of the late great John Peel the BBC radio stations push new bands like no other. i wouldn't be surprised if BBC radio created a profit for the UK.
BBC1 could vanish tomorrow and i wouldn't even notice. Go near 6 music, radio 4, BBC2 or BBC4 and I'll be seriously pissed off.
Watch this and tell me a commercial station would touch it with a barge pole
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012w66t/Afte...
And as to the constant complaint about bias on Question time please show me the commercial equivilant
thinfourth2 said:
And as to the constant complaint about bias on Question time please show me the commercial equivilant
But you're only heatring what you want to TF. It's QT and; the Six O'Click News, News at Ten, HIGNFY, Frozen Planet (and every other MMGW propoganda programme Attanborough makes) plus others... Get the point? RichB said:
ut you're only heatring what you want to TF. It's QT and; the Six O'Click News, News at Ten, HIGNFY, Frozen Planet (and every other MMGW propoganda programme Attanborough makes) plus others... Get the point?
yes the BBC is a constant labour love fest and anyone who doesn't agree is a commiethinfourth2 said:
donna180 said:
The sooner there's a proper debate on the Beeb, and they get rid of the license fee, the better in my view. If they simply scrapped the whole BBC (it's just a vast public funded job creation scheme...), how much would they save per year
And how much would we lose if the BBC was scrapped?Venture away from BBC1 and you will wide a wide range of utterly brilliant programming that the commercial sector wouldn't touch with a barge pole.
I seriously believe that the UK wouldn't be a world leader in the music industry if we didn't have radio 1 and the likes of the late great John Peel the BBC radio stations push new bands like no other. i wouldn't be surprised if BBC radio created a profit for the UK.
BBC1 could vanish tomorrow and i wouldn't even notice. Go near 6 music, radio 4, BBC2 or BBC4 and I'll be seriously pissed off.
Watch this and tell me a commercial station would touch it with a barge pole
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012w66t/Afte...
And as to the constant complaint about bias on Question time please show me the commercial equivilant
Channel 4 news is less biased I find.
The beeb flogs most programs to other Countries - put in a few adverts/cut down on trying to do everthing/Sport.... Top Gear and a lot of programs are commercially produced....
The National Geographic channel does brilliantly.....
thinfourth2 said:
RichB said:
ut you're only heatring what you want to TF. It's QT and; the Six O'Click News, News at Ten, HIGNFY, Frozen Planet (and every other MMGW propoganda programme Attanborough makes) plus others... Get the point?
yes the BBC is a constant labour love fest and anyone who doesn't agree is a commie
RichB said:
thinfourth2 said:
RichB said:
ut you're only heatring what you want to TF. It's QT and; the Six O'Click News, News at Ten, HIGNFY, Frozen Planet (and every other MMGW propoganda programme Attanborough makes) plus others... Get the point?
yes the BBC is a constant labour love fest and anyone who doesn't agree is a commie
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