Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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turbobloke said:
Which is more likely to reflect reality - the views of BBC staffers, three of whom have around 70 years' combined experience of what the BBC is all about on the front line, or a mix of partial accounts and peripheral material...
You can assign whichever probabilities suit you. What about the staffers who feel it's neutral or right-leaning? Do they not carry equal weight? Or are we just filtering the ones which reinforce what we already believe?

What about some content analysis commissioned by the trust that concluded recent activities were far from left-leaning? http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/p...

There are so many "credible" permutations of left / centre / right debate, across various outputs, the only thing they all make clear, is that it's far from clear.

speedy_thrills

7,760 posts

244 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mph1977 said:
rs1952 said:
What is often conveniently forgotten in threads like these (although epitomised perfectly in rohrl's quote on the previous page) is that many people see "bias" when their own personal opinions are not being reflected, or worse, people who hold similar personal opinions being challenged by interviewers.
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You probably all know already that John Humphrys has been reported to the BBC authorities accused of bias by both Labour and Conservative politicians. This tells me more about the bias within political parties than bias within the BBC.
it think this sums it all up really ...
This is probably true.

turbobloke

104,014 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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speedy_thrills said:
mph1977 said:
rs1952 said:
What is often conveniently forgotten in threads like these (although epitomised perfectly in rohrl's quote on the previous page) is that many people see "bias" when their own personal opinions are not being reflected, or worse, people who hold similar personal opinions being challenged by interviewers.
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You probably all know already that John Humphrys has been reported to the BBC authorities accused of bias by both Labour and Conservative politicians. This tells me more about the bias within political parties than bias within the BBC.
it think this sums it all up really ...
This is probably true.
Based on evidence rather than opinion, it's not.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Shut the BBC down TODAY and replace it with balanced programming

This should do

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#q=thatcher+grea...


PorkInsider

5,889 posts

142 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Sajid Javid was on BBC Breakfast earlier and they showed a picture of The Hood from Thunderbirds and compared his appearance to that.

Wonder if they will do the same with Miliband and Wallace?

Countdown

39,967 posts

197 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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La Liga said:
ou can assign whichever probabilities suit you. What about the staffers who feel it's neutral or right-leaning? Do they not carry equal weight? Or are we just filtering the ones which reinforce what we already believe?

What about some content analysis commissioned by the trust that concluded recent activities were far from left-leaning? http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/p...

There are so many "credible" permutations of left / centre / right debate, across various outputs, the only thing they all make clear, is that it's far from clear.
BBC staffers such as this one?

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-06-25/peston-i...

TKF

6,232 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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turbobloke is like the poster boy for confirmation bias

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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TKF said:
turbobloke is like the poster boy for confirmation bias
that is the entire problem with this and many such threads on PH, blind spots to cnfirmation bias, sociopathy etc etc

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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PorkInsider said:
Sajid Javid was on BBC Breakfast earlier and they showed a picture of The Hood from Thunderbirds and compared his appearance to that.

Wonder if they will do the same with Miliband and Wallace?
I saw that. They then cut to the weather man and came back with "you are not the evil one" referring to the weather man looking a bit like the thunderbirds character also.

It was pretty blatant.


anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Countdown said:
La Liga said:
You can assign whichever probabilities suit you. What about the staffers who feel it's neutral or right-leaning? Do they not carry equal weight? Or are we just filtering the ones which reinforce what we already believe?

What about some content analysis commissioned by the trust that concluded recent activities were far from left-leaning? http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/p...

There are so many "credible" permutations of left / centre / right debate, across various outputs, the only thing they all make clear, is that it's far from clear.
BBC staffers such as this one?

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-06-25/peston-i...
Quite. It's not going to be hard, with such a contentious subject, to find people who've worked / work at the BBC who say what you want to hear. The scope for their bias, agenda, interpretation, experiences and all the other variables are vast.

The external analysis above provides some interesting insights and has actually looked at data rather than opinion. Even so, I wouldn't use it as a definitive stick to beat home one view.

I'd suggest to those with a critical mind conclude that the issue isn't clear. Certainly no-where near enough for people to use "the BBC is left" as the blunt instrument they do on here as the cause and effect for things, like explaining why Clarkson wasn't offered a new contract.





colonel c

7,890 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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PorkInsider said:
Sajid Javid was on BBC Breakfast earlier and they showed a picture of The Hood from Thunderbirds and compared his appearance to that.

Wonder if they will do the same with Miliband and Wallace?
Like this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18354459

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707246/Th...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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La Liga said:
Countdown said:
La Liga said:
You can assign whichever probabilities suit you. What about the staffers who feel it's neutral or right-leaning? Do they not carry equal weight? Or are we just filtering the ones which reinforce what we already believe?

What about some content analysis commissioned by the trust that concluded recent activities were far from left-leaning? http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/p...

There are so many "credible" permutations of left / centre / right debate, across various outputs, the only thing they all make clear, is that it's far from clear.
BBC staffers such as this one?

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-06-25/peston-i...
Quite. It's not going to be hard, with such a contentious subject, to find people who've worked / work at the BBC who say what you want to hear. The scope for their bias, agenda, interpretation, experiences and all the other variables are vast.

The external analysis above provides some interesting insights and has actually looked at data rather than opinion. Even so, I wouldn't use it as a definitive stick to beat home one view.

I'd suggest to those with a critical mind conclude that the issue isn't clear. Certainly no-where near enough for people to use "the BBC is left" as the blunt instrument they do on here as the cause and effect for things, like explaining why Clarkson wasn't offered a new contract.
Good for you. I'm content to sit with the evidence that the BBC only advertises senior management posts in the Guardian.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Well it's easier to rely on that "evidence" than having to think / consider other evidence / viewpoints.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Good for you. I'm content to sit with the evidence that the BBC only advertises senior management posts in the Guardian.
so the choice of a single publication, which IIRC has a weekly media supplement is proof of Bias ?

If you honestly believe that please arrange to see a Registered Medical Practitioner so you can be certifed as unfit for jury service on grounds of mental incapacity ...

i wonder what you would make of the policy of a number of NHS organisations to only advertise on NHSjobs ...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Good for you. I'm content to sit with the evidence that the BBC only advertises senior management posts in the Guardian.
so the choice of a single publication, which IIRC has a weekly media supplement is proof of Bias ?

If you honestly believe that please arrange to see a Registered Medical Practitioner so you can be certifed as unfit for jury service on grounds of mental incapacity ...

i wonder what you would make of the policy of a number of NHS organisations to only advertise on NHSjobs ...

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Good for you. I'm content to sit with the evidence that the BBC only advertises senior management posts in the Guardian.
so the choice of a single publication, which IIRC has a weekly media supplement is proof of Bias ?

If you honestly believe that please arrange to see a Registered Medical Practitioner so you can be certifed as unfit for jury service on grounds of mental incapacity ...

i wonder what you would make of the policy of a number of NHS organisations to only advertise on NHSjobs ...
just to really confuse a lot of Teaching and HE job are / were advertised in the Times when TES and THES were owned by the Times ...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
mph1977 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Good for you. I'm content to sit with the evidence that the BBC only advertises senior management posts in the Guardian.
so the choice of a single publication, which IIRC has a weekly media supplement is proof of Bias ?

If you honestly believe that please arrange to see a Registered Medical Practitioner so you can be certifed as unfit for jury service on grounds of mental incapacity ...

i wonder what you would make of the policy of a number of NHS organisations to only advertise on NHSjobs ...
just to really confuse a lot of Teaching and HE job are / were advertised in the Times when TES and THES were owned by the Times ...
Like the lady in the picture, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but you sound like a nice boy...smile

Countdown

39,967 posts

197 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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mybrainhurts said:
Like the lady in the picture, I have absolutely no idea
Edited to remove the superfluous bits biggrin

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Thanks. I was getting confused. Hello?

K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Unb-f-eleivable-ing....

Well - "strange" morning on the BBC.

I would have started to defend them up to this morning.....

A cricketer died - nothing else happened - and a cricketer died - Eric Pickles interviewed the BBC - a cricketer died - they sent someone to East Anglia to make fun of the Canary Breeders ..... And a cricketer died..... He had a car crash last year when he was 83.... And was Australian......and was a cricketer.


Did I miss anything?



I don't like cricket.
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