Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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I've given up entirely with the BBC now for news. I actually find the news and current affairs coverage of Al Jazeera to be far more insightful, unbiased, and 'global' it's a sad reflection on how far the BBCs news and current affairs dept has fallen. The BBC does seem to have well and truly disappeared up its own arse in terms of news coverage.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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This morning's "right on" message, don't eat meat for a day. fk off, I want news not converting to a fking veggie punch

Smollet

10,665 posts

191 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
This morning's "right on" message, don't eat meat for a day. fk off, I want news not converting to a fking veggie punch
I find the back ground mood music they have with a lot of their so called news items irritating in the extreme as well. They're supposed to report the news not influence opinion.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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andymadmak said:
Smollet said:
Official denial on political bias.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32975...
Hardly surprising


The BBC has had left bias for years. Even former employees confirm it. However, as we see in this article (and also from BBC defenders on this thread) the standard rebuttal technique is to claim that everyone else is complaining of bias against them too. Somehow the notion has been allowed to develop that if Labour complain vociferously about bias against THEM, then this proves that the BBC is NOT biased against the Tories. Its just a smokescreen
yet as usual the immaturity and confirmation bias of the rampant libertarians is being ignored in favour of of the borderline sociopathy that typifies Libertarian thought ...

Edited by mph1977 on Monday 15th June 13:05

AstonZagato

12,731 posts

211 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
yet as usualy he immaturity oand confirmation bias of the rampant libertarains is being ignored in favour of of the borderline sociopathy that typifies Libertarian thought ...
Park life.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
yet as usualy he immaturity oand confirmation bias of the rampant libertarains is being ignored in favour of of the borderline sociopathy that typifies Libertarian thought ...
Ramblings of an idiot.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
mph1977 said:
yet as usualy he immaturity oand confirmation bias of the rampant libertarains is being ignored in favour of of the borderline sociopathy that typifies Libertarian thought ...
Ramblings of an idiot.
play the ball not the man ...

this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...


Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

170 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
play the ball not the man ...
this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...
Ramblings of an idiot part 2.

TankRizzo

7,300 posts

194 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
play the ball not the man ...

this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...
What?

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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TankRizzo said:
What?


https://xkcd.com/1277/

otolith

56,394 posts

205 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
play the ball not the man ...

this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...
People who only adhere to a political philosophy while the outcomes suit them don't really believe in it. Anti-tobacco legislation is a good way to smoke them out.

Sir Humphrey

387 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
play the ball not the man ...

this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...
Do you have an actual example of that?

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Sir Humphrey said:
mph1977 said:
play the ball not the man ...

this however is the problem with libertarains and bullies , they may say things about everyone being equal but that want special treastment for themselves and their chosen ' people like us ' ...
Do you have an actual example of that?
hugely obvious in many posters on this board, you only need look at many posts by 'bosses' in Jobs and employment or the posts by the 'innocent victimes of a corrupt police force' in SP+L

Sir Humphrey

387 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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mph1977 said:
hugely obvious in many posters on this board, you only need look at many posts by 'bosses' in Jobs and employment or the posts by the 'innocent victimes of a corrupt police force' in SP+L
Do they identify as libertarian? Quote one of the posts.

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Timmy40 said:
AJS- said:
Sir Humphrey said:
Timmy40 said:
Again, last night on the radio news I heard 4/5 of members had voted to strike, even the most mathematically challenged journalist could have easily worked out that 80% of 60% is 48%, and reported it as 48% of rail workers voted to strike.

This isn't just lazy reporting, this is a systematic distortion of the facts on an on going and deliberate basis. And I'm getting fedup with it as member of the public.

I WANT UNBIASED TRUTHFUL AND ACCURATE REPORTING.

I DONT WANT CONSERVATIVE BIAS

I DONT WANT LABOUR BIAS.
Unbiased reporting isn't possible, what is possible is an organisation which is openly left/right wing, if you read both the Telegraph and the Guardian you are probably going to get something fairly balanced on most topics.
Well said. I don't know why more people can't see this.

This stupid quest for "unbiased" news gives more power and credibility to the BBC than it ever deserved.
The point is that I am not forced to pay an annual subscription to the Guardian, I can choose not to buy it or read it's content. By owning a TV at all I am forced to pay an annual license fee/subscription which goes to the BBC even if I disagree with their left wing slant.
That's a different point from the bias. I'm all for getting rid of the licence fee, but I would also tie that to getting rid of the absurd requirement for "unbiased" news which I believe governs all broadcasters.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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From Wiki, an interesting mix(three were born in 1971 - hmmm):

Prominent British libertarians have included:

Richard Branson (born 1950),[12] businessman
Peter Thomas Bauer (1915–2002), developmental economist and 2002 winner of the Cato Institute's Milton Friedman Prize.[13]
Alan Duncan (born 1957),[14] Conservative politician
Daniel Hannan (born 1971), Conservative politician
Andrew Marr,[15] (born 1959), journalist and political commentator
Friedrich Hayek (1899–1992),[16] economist and author
Herbert Spencer (1820–1903),[17] philosopher
Chris Tame (1949–2006),[18] leader of the Libertarian Alliance
Steve Baker (born 1971),[citation needed] Conservative politician
Douglas Carswell (born 1971),[19] UK Independence Party politician

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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fblm said:
That's pretty much it, nail on the head.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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May I ask a question.

I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?


HarryW

15,158 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Pesty said:
May I ask a question.

I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?
It's been going on since the end of the election not just today. I'm absolutely sick of it. R4 even gave over prime time ( I was driving home time) party speeches to the faithful by the prospective candidates not so long ago too over several evenings. To be fair I don't actually recall the Cameron selection process And therefore presume there couldn't have been this much coverage. It wouldn't be interesting to know the facts and figures on it though.
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