Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
turbobloke said:
Quite so, that quote from mph1977 is just parroting the zealot website spin and in doing do has managed to get reality upside down and inside out. Computer climate models, which faithfully reproduce the erroneous assumptions of the modellers, say it's real, but that's it. So far there's no global climate data (as opposed to gigo) that even shows it exists. The claimed effects are still invisible in the data, profound faith is needed to open eyes and truly believe.
perfect subject for the Vatican then!NicD said:
turbobloke said:
Quite so, that quote from mph1977 is just parroting the zealot website spin and in doing do has managed to get reality upside down and inside out. Computer climate models, which faithfully reproduce the erroneous assumptions of the modellers, say it's real, but that's it. So far there's no global climate data (as opposed to gigo) that even shows it exists. The claimed effects are still invisible in the data, profound faith is needed to open eyes and truly believe.
perfect subject for the Vatican then!
Climate is about to change in an encyclical manner.
HarryW said:
Pesty said:
May I ask a question.
I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?
It's been going on since the end of the election not just today. I'm absolutely sick of it. R4 even gave over prime time ( I was driving home time) party speeches to the faithful by the prospective candidates not so long ago too over several evenings. To be fair I don't actually recall the Cameron selection process And therefore presume there couldn't have been this much coverage. It wouldn't be interesting to know the facts and figures on it though. I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?
Nor it should it be that surprisingly for Labour to have biggest media profile at the moment. Not only is there the main Labour press team, there are also the 4 leadership campaigns briefing against each other on an war footing, which the Lobby will be more than happy to lap up.
It's difficult to compare the 2005 Conservative leadership election: it was another time (e.g. pre-leadership debates, less professional campaigns behind the contenders); it was a shorter campaign that only really began in earnest at the autumn conference, with Clarke and Fox quickly knocked out; it was much more controlled by the party (Howard remaining in office, only 20 minutes speeches each at the conference); and of course the Labour ballot will be open to many more people whereas the Tories limit it to members.
I suspect the CCHQ message to MPs is to keep their heads down while Labour very publicly rip themselves apart. Save your powder for when the new Leader of the Opposition is crowned and tries to reconcile a fractured party.
ninja-lewis said:
HarryW said:
Pesty said:
May I ask a question.
I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?
It's been going on since the end of the election not just today. I'm absolutely sick of it. R4 even gave over prime time ( I was driving home time) party speeches to the faithful by the prospective candidates not so long ago too over several evenings. To be fair I don't actually recall the Cameron selection process And therefore presume there couldn't have been this much coverage. It wouldn't be interesting to know the facts and figures on it though. I may have missed it but since the BBC has become labour leader free publicity machine tonight did the conservatives get so much coverage when Cameron was trying to be leader?
Nor it should it be that surprisingly for Labour to have biggest media profile at the moment. Not only is there the main Labour press team, there are also the 4 leadership campaigns briefing against each other on an war footing, which the Lobby will be more than happy to lap up.
It's difficult to compare the 2005 Conservative leadership election: it was another time (e.g. pre-leadership debates, less professional campaigns behind the contenders); it was a shorter campaign that only really began in earnest at the autumn conference, with Clarke and Fox quickly knocked out; it was much more controlled by the party (Howard remaining in office, only 20 minutes speeches each at the conference); and of course the Labour ballot will be open to many more people whereas the Tories limit it to members.
I suspect the CCHQ message to MPs is to keep their heads down while Labour very publicly rip themselves apart. Save your powder for when the new Leader of the Opposition is crowned and tries to reconcile a fractured party.
Perik Omo said:
mph1977 said:
Except of course all the actual Science says man made climate change is real ...
I think you should try and get hold of and read "Climate Change, The Facts" available from SteynOnline you might just change your mind on that one.mph believes that the IPCC is a scientific body, whereas any fool can see that, as part of the UN, it is in fact a political body.
don4l said:
Perik Omo said:
mph1977 said:
Except of course all the actual Science says man made climate change is real ...
I think you should try and get hold of and read "Climate Change, The Facts" available from SteynOnline you might just change your mind on that one.mph believes that the IPCC is a scientific body, whereas any fool can see that, as part of the UN, it is in fact a political body.
DT said:
The BBC Trust will be axed and its powers handed to the communications regulator Ofcom, Westminster sources have revealed.
For the first time in the broadcaster’s nearly century-long history, it will be governed by an external body, as part of the renegotiation of the BBC Charter.
The move is expected to be signalled in a Green Paper that will formally trigger Charter renewal negotiations within weeks.
It comes after John Whittingdale, the new Culture Secretary, insisted that he does not have a “vendetta” against the corporation but warned that it needed a “very robust system in place” to deal with issues of impartiality.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11700135/Ofcom-to-take-charge-of-BBC.htmlFor the first time in the broadcaster’s nearly century-long history, it will be governed by an external body, as part of the renegotiation of the BBC Charter.
The move is expected to be signalled in a Green Paper that will formally trigger Charter renewal negotiations within weeks.
It comes after John Whittingdale, the new Culture Secretary, insisted that he does not have a “vendetta” against the corporation but warned that it needed a “very robust system in place” to deal with issues of impartiality.
BlackLabel said:
DT said:
The BBC Trust will be axed and its powers handed to the communications regulator Ofcom, Westminster sources have revealed.
For the first time in the broadcaster’s nearly century-long history, it will be governed by an external body, as part of the renegotiation of the BBC Charter.
The move is expected to be signalled in a Green Paper that will formally trigger Charter renewal negotiations within weeks.
It comes after John Whittingdale, the new Culture Secretary, insisted that he does not have a “vendetta” against the corporation but warned that it needed a “very robust system in place” to deal with issues of impartiality.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11700135/Ofcom-to-take-charge-of-BBC.htmlFor the first time in the broadcaster’s nearly century-long history, it will be governed by an external body, as part of the renegotiation of the BBC Charter.
The move is expected to be signalled in a Green Paper that will formally trigger Charter renewal negotiations within weeks.
It comes after John Whittingdale, the new Culture Secretary, insisted that he does not have a “vendetta” against the corporation but warned that it needed a “very robust system in place” to deal with issues of impartiality.
Another Rod Liddle piece about bias...
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9...
Have we reached an 'overwhelming consensus' or at least 95% confidence level that the bias is endemic?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/9...
Have we reached an 'overwhelming consensus' or at least 95% confidence level that the bias is endemic?
NoNeed said:
The BBC are trying to keep balance by hi lighting the Tory split on Europe 10 times a day.
Not noticed that but then, pay increasingly less attention to BBC News Channels in recent years whereas in the past it was permanently on in my home. If what you describe is in fact the case, then well done them even if by prejudicial default. Needs to be highlighted even if they do so to excess. Purely in the interest of balance as Dave C. contrives to stitch up the IN-OUT so called referendum over the next thirty months... at least.The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
Saw a piece on the BBC about the disabled living allowance and again it looks to me like the BBC is picking certain topic to attack the Government on.
This report suggested the allowance was changing but the amount of money would remain the same.
the usual emotive video used and the inference of this nasty Government targeting disabled people
This report suggested the allowance was changing but the amount of money would remain the same.
the usual emotive video used and the inference of this nasty Government targeting disabled people
MGJohn said:
The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
The BBC spends over 80% of its recruitment advertising budget with the Guardian and the paper it buys the most for reference is guess what yes the Guardian.Smollet said:
MGJohn said:
The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
The BBC spends over 80% of its recruitment advertising budget with the Guardian and the paper it buys the most for reference is guess what yes the Guardian.http://jobs.theguardian.com/job/6121020/editor-new...
Edited by Mark-C on Tuesday 30th June 09:52
Mark-C said:
Smollet said:
MGJohn said:
The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
The BBC spends over 80% of its recruitment advertising budget with the Guardian and the paper it buys the most for reference is guess what yes the Guardian.
Peter Sissons said:
I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
turbobloke said:
Mark-C said:
Smollet said:
MGJohn said:
The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
The BBC spends over 80% of its recruitment advertising budget with the Guardian and the paper it buys the most for reference is guess what yes the Guardian.Peter Sissons said:
I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
There is plenty of evidence of bias without pointing to random stuff
Mark-C said:
turbobloke said:
Mark-C said:
Smollet said:
MGJohn said:
The once justly highly regarded BBC has lost the plot in recent years. I suspect far too many cancerous inward influences resulting from ongoing recruitment to the BBC staff ranks from the "meejah" studies types flooding out of our wonderful education breeding ground facilities.
The BBC spends over 80% of its recruitment advertising budget with the Guardian and the paper it buys the most for reference is guess what yes the Guardian.Peter Sissons said:
I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
There is plenty of evidence of bias without pointing to random stuff
Given that the BBC must be the biggest media employer in the UK by quite a long way, and they choose to place all their job adverts in the Guardian, (to get the "right type" of candidate) could that possibly be the reason for other broadsheets not having a dedicated media jobs section?
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