Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
Mark-C said:
The Guardian is the only mainstream paper left with a Media Jobs section. If it helps the Murdoch media also does a lot of advertising in the Guardian.
http://jobs.theguardian.com/job/6121020/editor-new...
I'm not denying that but they do spend 20% elsewhere but still choose to spend the bulk via the Guardian so virtually guaranteeing a certain kind of person will apply. As you say Murdoch does use it but to the same extent?http://jobs.theguardian.com/job/6121020/editor-new...
Edited by Mark-C on Tuesday 30th June 09:52
Mark-C said:
The Guardian is the only mainstream paper left with a Media Jobs section. If it helps the Murdoch media also does a lot of advertising in the Guardian.
http://jobs.theguardian.com/job/6121020/editor-new...
There was this chicken, see, and this egg...http://jobs.theguardian.com/job/6121020/editor-new...
TTwiggy said:
People who work in the media and who are looking for jobs will look on Gorkana and the Guardian online. Plus other places of course. The idea that you have to be a Guardian reader in order to 'know about' these jobs is ridiculous. It is simply a portal for recruitment.
True but how many of them are Guardian readers anyway? Quite a few I suspect. Smollet said:
TTwiggy said:
People who work in the media and who are looking for jobs will look on Gorkana and the Guardian online. Plus other places of course. The idea that you have to be a Guardian reader in order to 'know about' these jobs is ridiculous. It is simply a portal for recruitment.
True but how many of them are Guardian readers anyway? Quite a few I suspect. 
I don't read the Guardian. I do work in media. If I was looking for a job then the Guardian onlne site would be one place I would look (there are others available).
turbobloke said:
Monbiot, Toynbee...marvellous 
They've recently applied for a job at the BBC (warning 'Toynbee, Owen Drones, Moonbat and some other oddball lefty woman' content, not for the faint hearted or those whose urine boils easily) - I suspect there are a few at the Beeb who'd jump at the chance to make Top Gear just like this....http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/video/2015...
TTwiggy said:
Do you have any empirical evidence for the length of a piece of string?
I don't read the Guardian. I do work in media. If I was looking for a job then the Guardian onlne site would be one place I would look (there are others available).
I have various lengths of string under investigation. Which one are you referring to? I don't read the Guardian. I do work in media. If I was looking for a job then the Guardian onlne site would be one place I would look (there are others available).
Mark Benson said:
turbobloke said:
Monbiot, Toynbee...marvellous
They've recently applied for a job at the BBC (warning 'Toynbee, Owen Drones, Moonbat and some other oddball lefty woman' content, not for the faint hearted or those whose urine boils easily) - I suspect there are a few at the Beeb who'd jump at the chance to make Top Gear just like this....http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/video/2015...
s. Listened to the piece on R4 this morning about Lord Sewell. Strangely, at no point did the BBC mention that Sewell is a Labour peer..
I cannot imagine that if this had been a Conservative peer then that fact would have been mentioned in every other line of the report....
In fact the ONLY other politician to get a mention during the report was Mr Cameron - apparently this episode will be embarrassing for HIM as he is set to appoint some more peers in the near future. It sort of implied (for the hard of thinking) that Sewell was a Conservative.........
I cannot imagine that if this had been a Conservative peer then that fact would have been mentioned in every other line of the report....
In fact the ONLY other politician to get a mention during the report was Mr Cameron - apparently this episode will be embarrassing for HIM as he is set to appoint some more peers in the near future. It sort of implied (for the hard of thinking) that Sewell was a Conservative.........
They did mention that he was appointed by Tony Blair and they did report on his views of the Labour leadership contest - so unless a person is pretty illiterate when it comes to British politics, it wouldn't take a huge amount of thinking to work out what side of the political divide he belongs to.
Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
Are you all so hard of thinking that you need such guidance all the time?
Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?
Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.
As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.
Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?
Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.
As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.
Eric Mc said:
They did mention that he was appointed by Tony Blair and they did report on his views of the Labour leadership contest - so unless a person is pretty illiterate when it comes to British politics, it wouldn't take a huge amount of thinking to work out what side of the political divide he belongs to.
Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
IIRC, Newsnight had absolutely no problems at all stating that Lord McAlpine was a Tory (over and over again, wasn't it)? And linked to paedophilia - even though that turned out to be completely false! Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
Eric Mc said:
They did mention that he was appointed by Tony Blair and they did report on his views of the Labour leadership contest - so unless a person is pretty illiterate when it comes to British politics, it wouldn't take a huge amount of thinking to work out what side of the political divide he belongs to.
Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
Well actually I was not aware of this story until this morning. ( I don't tend to watch much telly and I don't get a weekend paper) and I have to say that if I was basing my opinion on what I had heard on the Today program this morning I would have been leaning towards Sewell being a Conservative peer. I would hardly call myself politically illiterate! Maybe some people need everything spelled out to them in black and white.
Or maybe some people desperately seek out signs of bias in every news report the see or hear.
That being said, perhaps the reporting elsewhere on the BBC was more explicit in terms of Sewells political affiliations?
It will be interesting to see when (if?) a Conservative is similarly implicated whether the BBC handles it in the same way. ( Not holding my breath though)
Eric Mc said:
Are you all so hard of thinking that you need such guidance all the time?
Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?
Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.
As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.
I generally don't need 'guidance' on who's who in parliament but I did note, as I drove to and from the gym this morning that in both R4 reports the affilliation of Lord Sewell was never given; in fact it struck me as being assiduously avoided. I caught a bit of the BBC Breakfast news while in the gym - same thing - no mention of Labour.Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?
Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.
As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.
The ususal way of referring to a member of the HOL is 'Labour Peer, Lord So and So' or 'Conservative Peer, Lady Whassername' whether or not they have the whip, the party that elevated them is usually mentioned - every reference in the reports I listened to declined to mention his allegiance. It struck me as odd because it was unusual, out of the ordinary.
Was it bias? Well it's certainly not the usual way they refer to peers, so you have to ask yourself why that would be.
Edited by Mark Benson on Monday 27th July 09:47
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