Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[Randy Winkman]

turbobloke said:

Randy Winkman said:

Eric Mc said:

As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.

Exactly. And (as a few posts above) have already decided what will happen in particular circumstances in the future - which shows the extent of their own bias.

BBC left-wing bias can be found everywhere because it exists there.

BBC Left wing bias is not just in its news coverage but in everything else that it does

Does the Telegraph ever get through a day without a "We hate the BBC" article?

[London424]

http://order-order.com/2015/07/27/i-cant-believe-h...

Wishful thinking, bias or poor reading?

[iphonedyou]

London424 said:

http://order-order.com/2015/07/27/i-cant-believe-h...

Wishful thinking, bias or poor reading?

I love that website so much it borders on pathological.

[tangerine_sedge]

turbobloke said:

Nothing needs to be done about ITV as they are not required to be impartial, unlike the BBC

All the UK News broadcasters have to follow the OFCOM guidelines (LINKY). See rule 5.1 : "News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality."

That's why UK sky news does not look anything like US Fox news. The BBC news is held to exactly the same standards as other UK broadcasters news output.

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London424 said:

http://order-order.com/2015/07/27/i-cant-believe-h...

Wishful thinking, bias or poor reading?

Wow.

I'm sure this happens all the time the other way around...

[mybrainhurts]

tangerine_sedge said:

All the UK News broadcasters have to follow the OFCOM guidelines (LINKY). See rule 5.1 : "News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality."

That's why UK sky news does not look anything like US Fox news. The BBC news is held to exactly the same standards as other UK broadcasters news output.

[mph1977]

Mark Benson said:

Eric Mc said:

Are you all so hard of thinking that you need such guidance all the time?

Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?

Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.

As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.

I generally don't need 'guidance' on who's who in parliament but I did note, as I drove to and from the gym this morning that in both R4 reports the affilliation of Lord Sewell was never given; in fact it struck me as being assiduously avoided. I caught a bit of the BBC Breakfast news while in the gym - same thing - no mention of Labour.

The ususal way of referring to a member of the HOL is 'Labour Peer, Lord So and So' or 'Conservative Peer, Lady Whassername' whether or not they have the whip, the party that elevated them is usually mentioned - every reference in the reports I listened to declined to mention his allegiance. It struck me as odd because it was unusual, out of the ordinary.

Was it bias? Well it's certainly not the usual way they refer to peers, so you have to ask yourself why that would be.

Edited by Mark Benson on Monday 27th July 09:47

i think you may in fact be incorrect with regard to those who sit as crossbench peers but who may have been a member of a political party , but never mind the biasi in trying to prove that someone else is baised against your views ...

[mybrainhurts]

mph1977 said:

Mark Benson said:

Eric Mc said:

Are you all so hard of thinking that you need such guidance all the time?

Did you not already know he was a Labour peer?

Like all media outlets, BBC have been reporting the case since Sunday morning. They have mentioned multiple times what party he belongs to.

As I said, those who seek bias will find it everywhere.

I generally don't need 'guidance' on who's who in parliament but I did note, as I drove to and from the gym this morning that in both R4 reports the affilliation of Lord Sewell was never given; in fact it struck me as being assiduously avoided. I caught a bit of the BBC Breakfast news while in the gym - same thing - no mention of Labour.

The ususal way of referring to a member of the HOL is 'Labour Peer, Lord So and So' or 'Conservative Peer, Lady Whassername' whether or not they have the whip, the party that elevated them is usually mentioned - every reference in the reports I listened to declined to mention his allegiance. It struck me as odd because it was unusual, out of the ordinary.

Was it bias? Well it's certainly not the usual way they refer to peers, so you have to ask yourself why that would be.

Edited by Mark Benson on Monday 27th July 09:47

i think you may in fact be incorrect with regard to those who sit as crossbench peers but who may have been a member of a political party , but never mind the biasi in trying to prove that someone else is baised against your views ...

Anyone who can't see the BBC's left wing bias is deaf, dumb, blind or in denial.

[mph1977]

mybrainhurts said:

Anyone who can't see the BBC's left wing bias is deaf, dumb, blind or in denial.

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

[bodhi]

mph1977 said:

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

Parklife.

[mybrainhurts]

mph1977 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Anyone who can't see the BBC's left wing bias is deaf, dumb, blind or in denial.

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

This attitude comes up a lot. It's taking on the guise of a cult.

PS...BBC = blatant left wing bias. Even their execs admit it. HTH.

[Art0ir]

bodhi said:

mph1977 said:

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

Parklife.

[9.3]

mph1977 said:

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

Classic BBC speak

[tangerine_sedge]

mph1977 said:

mybrainhurts said:

Anyone who can't see the BBC's left wing bias is deaf, dumb, blind or in denial.

or simply doesn;t have the issues with recognising the self confirmatory nature of the behaviours of those with more extreme m views where they convince themselves that their minority opinion is held by the 'silent majority'

Were these the same "silent majority" who were supposed to bring a day of reckoning to the traditional westminster parties and elect Saint Nige and his followers on a groundswell of common sense?

[tangerine_sedge]

mybrainhurts said:

tangerine_sedge said:

All the UK News broadcasters have to follow the OFCOM guidelines (LINKY). See rule 5.1 : "News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality."

That's why UK sky news does not look anything like US Fox news. The BBC news is held to exactly the same standards as other UK broadcasters news output.

Laugh as much as you want, but the fact stands that *all* the UK broadcasters have to follow the same guidelines for their news output. I know that complex things like facts get in the way of your opinion, but those are the OFCOM rules that all the broadcasters play by.

Of course, whenever you spot the blatant BBC bias which you 'feel' is inherent in all their news output, feel free to contact OFCOM and complain. Alternatively you could just refute all this with a and feel like you've made a coherant point.

[WinstonWolf]

tangerine_sedge said:

mybrainhurts said:

tangerine_sedge said:

All the UK News broadcasters have to follow the OFCOM guidelines (LINKY). See rule 5.1 : "News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality."

That's why UK sky news does not look anything like US Fox news. The BBC news is held to exactly the same standards as other UK broadcasters news output.

Laugh as much as you want, but the fact stands that *all* the UK broadcasters have to follow the same guidelines for their news output. I know that complex things like facts get in the way of your opinion, but those are the OFCOM rules that all the broadcasters play by.

Of course, whenever you spot the blatant BBC bias which you 'feel' is inherent in all their news output, feel free to contact OFCOM and complain. Alternatively you could just refute all this with a and feel like you've made a coherant point.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/573918/BBC-left-wing-bias-Ukip-leaders-debate-audience

[Cheese Mechanic]

tangerine_sedge said:

Laugh as much as you want, but the fact stands that *all* the UK broadcasters have to follow the same guidelines for their news output. I know that complex things like facts get in the way of your opinion, but those are the OFCOM rules that all the broadcasters play by.
Of course, whenever you spot the blatant BBC bias which you 'feel' is inherent in all their news output, feel free to contact OFCOM and complain. Alternatively you could just refute all this with a and feel like you've made a coherant point.

Strange, is not putting the BBC under the umbrella of OFCOM one of the key points under review, scrapping their self regulating BBC "Trust"?

OFCOM only has limited sway over the the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/page/guid...

Whilst it does seem to have a remit concerning "Fairness" , impartiality is not under OFCOM remit.

Even the Daily Mirror (shock horror) having it out with the Beeb

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/bbc-must-held-a...

OFCOM specifically state they are not regulator over the BBC when it comes to bias or impartiality.

http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/complain/tv-and-radi...


From the OFCOM site: "If your complaint relates to matters of due impartiality, due accuracy, bias or commercial references (with the exception of the relevant product placement rules: see Section Nine of Ofcom’s Broadcasting Code) in BBC programming, please make a complaint Directly to the BBC

The BBC Trust
regulates these areas rather than Ofcom. "

Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Tuesday 28th July 09:56

[The Don of Croy]

This week the BBC is keen for me to understand about Human Trafficking.

I know this because Fiona Bruce devoted the first section of last night's Ten O'Clock News to items relating to exploitation and rape of women, including three interviews.

I'm not clear as to how this was headline news - there was mention of a new law - but it is clearly of major import as they will inform me later this week of more elements to the story.

So it's a news item presented in installments - except they are controlling the flow and thus must have all the information already. In other words, a campaign.

Is this what we expect from 'news' programmes?

What's happened to all those migrants in the med - has that all stopped now? Did they all go home?

[turbobloke]

The Don of Croy said:

This week the BBC is keen for me to understand about Human Trafficking.

I know this because Fiona Bruce devoted the first section of last night's Ten O'Clock News to items relating to exploitation and rape of women, including three interviews.

I'm not clear as to how this was headline news - there was mention of a new law - but it is clearly of major import as they will inform me later this week of more elements to the story.

So it's a news item presented in installments - except they are controlling the flow and thus must have all the information already. In other words, a campaign.

Is this what we expect from 'news' programmes?

No, but it is what to expect from the BBC - wait for the EU referendum to draw near.

[Diderot]

mybrainhurts said:

tangerine_sedge said:

All the UK News broadcasters have to follow the OFCOM guidelines (LINKY). See rule 5.1 : "News, in whatever form, must be reported with due accuracy and presented with due impartiality."

That's why UK sky news does not look anything like US Fox news. The BBC news is held to exactly the same standards as other UK broadcasters news output.

Have another. oh and one more for good measure

Impartiality ho ho ...