Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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0000 said:
Bluebarge said:
Well there's a whole other thread for the climate change debate but I'm afraid well over 90% of the scientific community disagree with you
It genuinely surprises me that well over 90% of the scientific community have reviewed the evidence available from the niche of climate science.

I only took Maths and Computer Science but I'm also a bit put out that no one asked me. frown
Since we had Bluebarge posting the same old nonsense about consensus, as though the scientific community has ever been asked and responsed...here's a recent result from the climate science community: 43% not over 90% support the IPCC articles of faith and associated bogus claims.



The 90% plus nonsense was never real in any case as demonstrated N times over on the very climate threads that Bluebarge points us to...before going O/T while cautioning others not to (but there's no problem here with that hypocrisy).

It's the same old carp trotted out by faithful believers lacking any clue about the data and the actual opinions of scientists.

Back to the BBC's self-confessed and self-evident left wing bias.

Jinx

11,345 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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0000 said:
It genuinely surprises me that well over 90% of the scientific community have reviewed the evidence available from the niche of climate science.

I only took Maths and Computer Science but I'm also a bit put out that no one asked me. frown
Given the paucity of actual evidence it didn't take long smile

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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It seems the Greens aren't too happy with that Quintin Letts piece:


'Quentin Upsets BBC’s Greens'

http://order-order.com/2015/08/06/quentin-upsets-b...

hehe

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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Not enough pinkogreen bias eh?


Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

168 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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chris watton said:
It seems the Greens aren't too happy with that Quintin Letts piece:


'Quentin Upsets BBC’s Greens'

http://order-order.com/2015/08/06/quentin-upsets-b...

hehe
Very informative. I wondered what the kerfuffle was about the met office.

Now I see it, fking disgraceful. What the fk are they doing with political lobbying when they should be
forecasting weather? Obviously they have too much money in their hands.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

261 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
chris watton said:
It seems the Greens aren't too happy with that Quintin Letts piece:


'Quentin Upsets BBC’s Greens'

http://order-order.com/2015/08/06/quentin-upsets-b...

hehe
Very informative. I wondered what the kerfuffle was about the met office.

Now I see it, fking disgraceful. What the fk are they doing with political lobbying when they should be
forecasting weather? Obviously they have too much money in their hands.
Along with some really expensive computers to allow "modelling" down to 1 square mile I believe.

zygalski

7,759 posts

144 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I hate bias. That's why I get all my climate info from car enthusiast websites. thumbup

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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zygalski said:
I hate bias. That's why I get all my climate info from car enthusiast websites. thumbup
Where you will find - in the case of this site - links to the data as well as peer reviewed papers that neither the IPCC nor the BBC will tell you about, as well as those they do want you to see, plus critiques from both PH and non-PH scientists on all of them including those that you do get spoon fed. One place not to go is the BBC so stay around and be better informed.

Then if you want you can make your own mind up with a wider information base rather than be willingly or unwittingly propagandised like so many of your peers. Or you can be just like them, signalled by a lack of awareness and a facile line in commentary which usually involves parroting one of numerous false claims.

So, good move smile and the climate threads are easily found whenever you want a top-up or update.

Countdown

39,690 posts

195 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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zygalski said:
I hate bias. That's why I get all my climate info from car enthusiast websites. thumbup
I'm fortunate in this respect that I only use unbiased information for my decision making. Unlikely people who disagree with me.

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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This is selective, deliberately so, because it highlights the key element of the quotation.

Paxman said:
the BBC’s coverage of the (climate change) issue abandoned the pretence of impartiality long ago
That's almost as chillingly hilarious as the Royal Society, with motto "Take Nobody's Word For It" who then expect the media and wider population to take their word for it, but only in the matter of manmadeup climate change.

AstonZagato

12,649 posts

209 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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chris watton said:
It seems the Greens aren't too happy with that Quintin Letts piece:


'Quentin Upsets BBC’s Greens'

http://order-order.com/2015/08/06/quentin-upsets-b...

hehe
Roger Harrabin getting a mauling for wading in to the debate:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/08/...


FiF

43,960 posts

250 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Bluebarge said:
But not evidence of bias by the BBC given that an unpopular viewpoint held mostly by people on the right was given a full and unchallenged airing. Which I think is why FiF mentioned it.
Twaddle. It was perfectly clear why I posted it from the post. In a thread discussing alleged bias at the BBC, where the clear bias in favour of the alarmist man made climate change theories has been discussed, it was interesting to note that no comment about the programme had been made. A programme which hitherto one couldn't have imagined the BBC would let slip over the airwaves.

I thought it didn't need to be said but clearly it does, namely a brief questioning whether BBC attitudes are changing. But seeing the frothing from Harrabin and the usual suspects, including your own gratuitous Daily Mail journalist swipe, suggests plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

In the programme the Met Office were allowed to defend themselves and generally confirmed that they're pretty good at short term forecasting but way off the mark longer term, and didn't even attempt to answer the issue of why they ignored certain factors or played politics.

But I can see why you didn't like the programme but there's another thread for that.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

177 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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FiF said:
Bluebarge said:
But not evidence of bias by the BBC given that an unpopular viewpoint held mostly by people on the right was given a full and unchallenged airing. Which I think is why FiF mentioned it.
Twaddle. It was perfectly clear why I posted it from the post. In a thread discussing alleged bias at the BBC, where the clear bias in favour of the alarmist man made climate change theories has been discussed, it was interesting to note that no comment about the programme had been made. A programme which hitherto one couldn't have imagined the BBC would let slip over the airwaves.

I thought it didn't need to be said but clearly it does, namely a brief questioning whether BBC attitudes are changing. But seeing the frothing from Harrabin and the usual suspects, including your own gratuitous Daily Mail journalist swipe, suggests plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

In the programme the Met Office were allowed to defend themselves and generally confirmed that they're pretty good at short term forecasting but way off the mark longer term, and didn't even attempt to answer the issue of why they ignored certain factors or played politics.

But I can see why you didn't like the programme but there's another thread for that.
I'm guessing you're not a morning person.

My assumption was obviously incorrect but I'm a bit baffled by your aggressive reaction. As to the Daily Mail reference - well, that is a right-wing newspaper so the fact that one of its journalists got a programme all to himself to have a pop at one of the Right's bêtes noires is surely a counter to those who perceive left-wing bias at the BBC.

But I guess you don't agree with that. Hey ho..

Mr_B

10,480 posts

242 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Is it now standard to pre qualify your reply on PH about how the other person is aggressive, frothing, angry and generally have to try and taint everyone as such ?

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Have a listen to this car crash interview with Alan Yentob, this is a guy who, according to Wiki:

"In July 2009 he was revealed to have accumulated a pension worth £6.3m, giving an annual retirement income of £216,667 for the rest of his life. This is one of the biggest pensions in the public sector.[5] He has been on the Board of Trustees of The Architecture Foundation."

http://order-order.com/2015/08/07/yentob-demands-c...

These BBC left wing luvvies do like their money, don't they!



Bluebarge

4,519 posts

177 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Mr_B said:
Is it now standard to pre qualify your reply on PH about how the other person is aggressive, frothing, angry and generally have to try and taint everyone as such ?
I don't know. But starting a post with "Twaddle" seemed to me a fairly aggressive way to start a post in the context of what I originally wrote. You'll note I was accused of "frothing" by FiF so maybe it is now de rigeur. Who knows?

FiF

43,960 posts

250 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Bluebarge said:
I'm guessing you're not a morning person.

My assumption was obviously incorrect but I'm a bit baffled by your aggressive reaction. As to the Daily Mail reference - well, that is a rigat least-wing newspaper so the fact that one of its journalists got a programme all to himself to have a pop at one of the Right's bêtes noires is surely a counter to those who perceive left-wing bias at the BBC.

But I guess you don't agree with that. Hey ho..
In the context of your other input twaddle and frothing was not aggressive, and certainly not intended as such, but pretty much on the mark. Guess you're maybe a touch sensitive having been accurately called out on the inaccuracies within your posts by quite a number of contributors. Hey ho indeed.

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

177 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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FiF said:
accurately called out on the inaccuracies within your posts by quite a number of contributors
More like "crossed swords with assorted right-wing loons" rofl
Have a hey ho and a nonny no thrown in for free. I'm generous like that smile

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Bluebarge said:
More like "crossed swords with assorted right-wing loons"
Not at all gratuitously personal & condescending so - replying in kind but with added accuracy - spoken like a true left-wing loon dealing with better informed people ...and coming unstuck.

richie99

1,116 posts

185 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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0000 said:
Bluebarge said:
Well there's a whole other thread for the climate change debate but I'm afraid well over 90% of the scientific community disagree with you
It genuinely surprises me that well over 90% of the scientific community have reviewed the evidence available from the niche of climate science.

I only took Maths and Computer Science but I'm also a bit put out that no one asked me. frown
I'm a physicist. No one asked me either. asked my brother, also a physicist (in energy) and no one asked him either. So 100% of the scientists in my family were not asked.
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