Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
Camoradi said:
I was watching the BBC coverage of the floods in the North West yesterday, and they ran an interview with "Manchester resident" Phill Hudson. Poor bloke had his house flooded (apparently)
Now our Phill came over a bit anti government. "Tory cutbacks" seemed to be of greater concern to him than the 3 inches of water in his kitchen.
So I googled his name. Ah, here he is... http://online.westlancs.gov.uk/coins/member.asp?id...
and from his Huffington Post contributers profile "Not to mention that I am an avid Labour Party supporter, running for council in the 2015 general election"
They have also interviewed loads of Tories over the last few days as well....Now our Phill came over a bit anti government. "Tory cutbacks" seemed to be of greater concern to him than the 3 inches of water in his kitchen.
So I googled his name. Ah, here he is... http://online.westlancs.gov.uk/coins/member.asp?id...
and from his Huffington Post contributers profile "Not to mention that I am an avid Labour Party supporter, running for council in the 2015 general election"
Edited by Camoradi on Wednesday 30th December 09:11
eccles said:
They have also interviewed loads of Tories over the last few days as well....
Of course they have. I just found it interesting in that Mr Hudson drew attention to himself with a bit of an anti tory rant when I was expecting a story of wet sandbags and soggy sofas, and the fact that he wasn't identified by the BBC as a Labour councilor, just a "Manchester Resident"
chris watton said:
eccles said:
They have also interviewed loads of Tories over the last few days as well....
But is that not missing the point?According to the poster, the BBC introduced this guy as a "Manchester resident" and not "Labour Councillor Phill Hudson"
Why is that?
See also under 'Labour stooge Amy Rutland' or 'Labour plant Beth Butterfield'.
chris watton said:
eccles said:
They have also interviewed loads of Tories over the last few days as well....
But is that not missing the point?According to the poster, the BBC introduced this guy as a "Manchester resident" and not "Labour Councillor Phill Hudson"
Why is that?
There have been many people interviewed over the last few days, and many of those have expressed dissatisfaction with the government, are they all being selected for broadcast just because they slag off the Tories? (even those on other news channels?)
eccles said:
...bias in everything the BBC does...
You've been doing some background reading 
BBC left wing bias goes beyond its news coverage into everything else that it does
It may also be the case that the BBC didn't know about the Labour candidacy of a person they employed to deal with viewer complaints of pro-Labour bias in the BBC's past election coverage.
turbobloke said:
eccles said:
...bias in everything the BBC does...
You've been doing some background reading BBC left wing bias goes beyond its news coverage into everything else that it does
It may also be the case that the BBC didn't know about the Labour candidacy of a person they employed to deal with viewer complaints of bias in the BBC's past election coverage.
eccles said:
turbobloke said:
eccles said:
...bias in everything the BBC does...
You've been doing some background reading BBC left wing bias goes beyond its news coverage into everything else that it does
It may also be the case that the BBC didn't know about the Labour candidacy of a person they employed to deal with viewer complaints of bias in the BBC's past election coverage.
In turn I could take you a little more seriously if you understood the difference between primary and secondary sources, such that the information in the article derives not from a journalist's opinion presented as fact (in true BBC-correspondent-interviews-another-BBC-correspondent style) but from a senior BBC staffer with 20+ years' experience of BBC bias. With examples to illustrate the bias. HTH
turbobloke said:
eccles said:
turbobloke said:
eccles said:
...bias in everything the BBC does...
You've been doing some background reading BBC left wing bias goes beyond its news coverage into everything else that it does
It may also be the case that the BBC didn't know about the Labour candidacy of a person they employed to deal with viewer complaints of bias in the BBC's past election coverage.
In turn I could take you a little more seriously if you understood the difference between primary and secondary sources, such that the information in the article derives not from a journalist's opinion presented as fact (in true BBC-correspondent-interviews-another-BBC-correspondent style) but from a senior BBC staffer with 20+ years' experience of BBC bias. With examples to illustrate the bias. HTH
Turbobloke, named after a turbo and a bloke. More likely to be Jeremy Clarksons best friend than Jeremy Corbyn's you would hazard.
So, in summary, right wing PH folk think the BBC is biased. Great, don't watch or read anything from them, go watch FoxNews and shut up complaining.
Stop bloody whinging about it, you all sound like my Daily Mail reading old mumsy.
In summary, anyone capable of noting bias, whatever their political persuasion, realises the BBC is biased. The BBC says it's biased. Several former 20 year beeb staffers have a surplus of evidence available when confirming the BBC's left bias.
Evidence, as opposed to mere opinion, reveals the bias. Right-wing folk can see that there's bias in right-wing sources as well as the BBC's bias. The politics of the observer don't determine BBC bias, the BBC's output does that. An observer with critical faculties suspended or with their own reasons for defending indefensible beeb bias may avoid noting the obvious bias. But still, the BBC remains left-wing biased.
Evidence, as opposed to mere opinion, reveals the bias. Right-wing folk can see that there's bias in right-wing sources as well as the BBC's bias. The politics of the observer don't determine BBC bias, the BBC's output does that. An observer with critical faculties suspended or with their own reasons for defending indefensible beeb bias may avoid noting the obvious bias. But still, the BBC remains left-wing biased.
ellroy said:
For me the issue isn't really the bias, as blatant as it appears to me, it's more that I have to pay for it.
There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
So watch the news on another channel. Identify the shows with which you most associate bias, and don't watch them much as you would choose not to watch any other subject that doesn't interest you. There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
ellroy said:
For me the issue isn't really the bias, as blatant as it appears to me, it's more that I have to pay for it.
There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
You're not actually paying for the BBC, you are paying the government your licence fee last time I looked. They dole it out. If you don't want any of the licence fee money to go to the bbc you need to talk to your MP.There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
ellroy said:
For me the issue isn't really the bias, as blatant as it appears to me, it's more that I have to pay for it.
There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
that's all well and good, the problem comes when their bias crap starts to have a major influence on democracy.There's still a lot of output from the Beeb that's worth some money, but I don't see why I should have to pay for a blatant left of centre political agenda as well.
Scuffers said:
that's all well and good, the problem comes when their bias crap starts to have a major influence on democracy.
Exactly so, one of those personally involved staffers with direct experience of BBC bias across decades pulls no punches in saying that the BBC's left-wing bias seriously distorts public debate in the UK. He's not wrong.turbobloke said:
In summary, anyone capable of noting bias, whatever their political persuasion, realises the BBC is biased. The BBC says it's biased. Several former 20 year beeb staffers have a surplus of evidence available when confirming the BBC's left bias.
Evidence, as opposed to mere opinion, reveals the bias. Right-wing folk can see that there's bias in right-wing sources as well as the BBC's bias. The politics of the observer don't determine BBC bias, the BBC's output does that. An observer with critical faculties suspended or with their own reasons for defending indefensible beeb bias may avoid noting the obvious bias. But still, the BBC remains left-wing biased.
So we all agree it's biased then?Evidence, as opposed to mere opinion, reveals the bias. Right-wing folk can see that there's bias in right-wing sources as well as the BBC's bias. The politics of the observer don't determine BBC bias, the BBC's output does that. An observer with critical faculties suspended or with their own reasons for defending indefensible beeb bias may avoid noting the obvious bias. But still, the BBC remains left-wing biased.
We just disagree that a publically funded TV service should really be totally unbiased and needs to change.
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