Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[Europa1]

andymadmak said:

davidball said:

I am not at all concerned whether Jeremy Hardy's views and comments help Labour into power. I just delight in hearing him prick the Tory buffoons into further attacks on the best media and news service in the world. I refer of course to the BBC. Go to RT.com or Fox News and marvel at how lucky we are.

Thats an interesting post. You describe the BBC as the best media and news service in the world. OK, how can you be so certain that the BBC is the best as you describe it? Have you travelled extensively? Have you watched many other media outlets around the globe? I suspect not. It's just another one of the lazy assertions that get made. Oh, of course you select the easy target of Fox news as proof of your point. ( I have never seen RT, so I cannot comment on that one) Except nobody is claiming that Fox is either the best, or even unbiased. Indeed, nobody expects Fox to be unbiased. We do however expect the BBC to be unbiased given that

1. We have no choice but to pay for it regardless of whether or not we watch it. (clue, you don't have to pay for Fox unless you want to)
2. The BBC is supposed to be unbiased, and even, from time to time actually claims to be unbiased (between bouts of admitting that it isn't)

In terms of news coverage, many actually rate Al Jazeera's English news channel as being the best.

[Andy Zarse]

chris watton said:

Andy Zarse said:

chris watton said:

davidball said:

Sky News? That is a Murdoch propaganda organ isn't it? Enough said.

I do not know of any 'normal' people who actually speak/think that way!

I guess the difference is that we do not have to pay for Murdoch's offerings, we can stop anytime we like, unlike the BBC, which is a complete irrelevance to our daily televisual lives.

Still, I guess I have to help pay for 38 degree lovers like you to enjoy what you like, while at the same time, slagging off what I pay for to watch/listen to.

Anyone who calls a multi-media portal an "organ" in this day and age is basically, well, an organ.

Quite!

Oh, and as I mentioned 38 degrees:

"Survey on future of the BBC hijacked by Left-wingers: 92% of respondents were linked to group which sent leading emails to members"

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Strange, if they are so sure the BBC is so loved by all, why feel the need to do this?

Not for nothing do 38 Degrees always call it "Our BBC". Note, it is not the nation's BBC, but "ours". Just like "Our NHS".

These people think it's the private property of the Labour Party (if Mr Loonybyn still allows such a thing). The next central tennet is that the vicious Tory gubbermunt are always seeking ways to sell it all off cheap of to their corrupt cronys and therefore we must organise to ensure it keeps its HANDS OFF OUR BBC/NHS/BEES/POTATO MARKETING BOARD/ETC

[Pesty]

there is a program about trump coming on R4 my word you should have heard the music they played and the tone of the advert " the politics of paranoia"
yeah totally bias free.

[davidball]

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

[Pesty]

its ok they will be covering HRC breaking several federal laws and the FBI investigation into her any time now...

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[Andy Zarse]

davidball said:

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

The irony being you showing a similar absence of perspective as the blessed Donald...

[eccles]

Andy Zarse said:

davidball said:

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

The irony being you showing a similar absence of perspective as the blessed Donald...

Coming from you that's rich! Lack of perspective indeed!

[Andy Zarse]

eccles said:

Andy Zarse said:

davidball said:

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

The irony being you showing a similar absence of perspective as the blessed Donald...

Coming from you that's rich! Lack of perspective indeed!

Oh hello caravan boy, still bitter about being a failed pilot huh?

[eccles]

Andy Zarse said:

eccles said:

Andy Zarse said:

davidball said:

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

The irony being you showing a similar absence of perspective as the blessed Donald...

Coming from you that's rich! Lack of perspective indeed!

Oh hello caravan boy, still bitter about being a failed pilot huh?

I've never owned a caravan, and never tried to be a pilot....

Just call me a lefty, you'll be happy then.

[Andy Zarse]

eccles said:

Andy Zarse said:

eccles said:

Andy Zarse said:

davidball said:

Please no. I think we have heard enough from and about the ultimate Tory, Trump.

The irony being you showing a similar absence of perspective as the blessed Donald...

Coming from you that's rich! Lack of perspective indeed!

Oh hello caravan boy, still bitter about being a failed pilot huh?

I've never owned a caravan, and never tried to be a pilot....

Just call me a lefty, you'll be happy then.

Are you left wing then? I honestly didn't know. All I do know is you pop up about once a year, and have for the last ten years, hurl a random barb at me and then disappear again. I have no idea why.

And then, quite out of the blue, last year we had a jolly chat with Cranky (a lefty I have an enormous amount of time for) about his vintage caravan. Oh well, each to their own...

[eccles]

Andy Zarse said:

Are you left wing then? I honestly didn't know. All I do know is you pop up about once a year, and have for the last ten years, hurl a random barb at me and then disappear again. I have no idea why.

And then, quite out of the blue, last year we had a jolly chat with Cranky (a lefty I have an enormous amount of time for) about his vintage caravan. Oh well, each to their own...

Pop up about once a year? I'm on here most days!
So a joke about 3 years ago about the name of crankies caravan being the same as my username makes me some sort of 'caravan boy'? And what's this crap about being a failed pilot, please do explain?

[Smollet]

eccles said:

Pop up about once a year? I'm on here most days!
So a joke about 3 years ago about the name of crankies caravan being the same as my username makes me some sort of 'caravan boy'? And what's this crap about being a failed pilot, please do explain?

No idea about the caravan name association but whenever I see you here once a year most weeks I think of the Goons and that is no bad thing.

[Andy Zarse]

eccles said:

Pop up about once a year? I'm on here most days!
So a joke about 3 years ago about the name of crankies caravan being the same as my username makes me some sort of 'caravan boy'? And what's this crap about being a failed pilot, please do explain?

Crikey, slow down to a gallop old chap.... yes I realise you're on here most days, what I mean is we generally we have nothing to do with each other, peacably co-existing with little or no direct contact even when commenting in the same thread.

Then, about once a year, you randomly pop up in a sub-discussion in which you were not previously involved and make a snide comment. I don't ever remember having a bust-up with you, and as far as I know we've no personal axe to grind, so your behaviour just strikes me as, well, you know, a bit odd. A bit passive/aggressive, and like you're not quite wired up properly. That's why I actively avoid commenting on anything you are closely involved in.

I think on reflection it's best if I don't respond to you in future, so I genuinely wish you well and say

[The Don of Croy]

Smiler. said:

...It was never a problem when Coren hosted it, nor in the early days of his successor.

I don't remember Alan Coren hosting it - I do remember Barry Took hosting it for years with AC as a longstanding contributor. BT was very good at laughing at his own jokes iirc (or were they scripted by others?).

The prog on R4 about US politics and fear was quite good, as it happens (and something the Beeb used to do well) although there remains ample opportunity in the format to 'load' the opinions aired (repeats of McCarthy's fears of commies everywhere, a fear later proved partially correct interestingly but this prog didn't say that). It didn't dwell on Trump. However it would be nice if they could shine a light into the Clinton's dark past.

Come to that there must be some decent documentary makers and investigative journos left who could now rake over the cold remains of Blair's Labour experiment, and allow us to see the awful truth...that would be a good unbiased BBC project.

[eccles]

Andy Zarse said:

eccles said:

Pop up about once a year? I'm on here most days!
So a joke about 3 years ago about the name of crankies caravan being the same as my username makes me some sort of 'caravan boy'? And what's this crap about being a failed pilot, please do explain?

Crikey, slow down to a gallop old chap.... yes I realise you're on here most days, what I mean is we generally we have nothing to do with each other, peacably co-existing with little or no direct contact even when commenting in the same thread.

Then, about once a year, you randomly pop up in a sub-discussion in which you were not previously involved and make a snide comment. I don't ever remember having a bust-up with you, and as far as I know we've no personal axe to grind, so your behaviour just strikes me as, well, you know, a bit odd. A bit passive/aggressive, and like you're not quite wired up properly. That's why I actively avoid commenting on anything you are closely involved in.

I think on reflection it's best if I don't respond to you in future, so I genuinely wish you well and say

Ah, bless, you're a bit thin skinned at the moment. I take the mickey out of you for your lack of perspective about the BBC and it's bias, and you start calling me a failed pilot (I'd love to know what planet that came from!) and then ramble on about me being the one who's not wired up properly!
So if I'm passive aggressive what does that make you? Just aggressive?

[mph1977]

eccles said:

Andy Zarse said:

eccles said:

Pop up about once a year? I'm on here most days!
So a joke about 3 years ago about the name of crankies caravan being the same as my username makes me some sort of 'caravan boy'? And what's this crap about being a failed pilot, please do explain?

Crikey, slow down to a gallop old chap.... yes I realise you're on here most days, what I mean is we generally we have nothing to do with each other, peacably co-existing with little or no direct contact even when commenting in the same thread.

Then, about once a year, you randomly pop up in a sub-discussion in which you were not previously involved and make a snide comment. I don't ever remember having a bust-up with you, and as far as I know we've no personal axe to grind, so your behaviour just strikes me as, well, you know, a bit odd. A bit passive/aggressive, and like you're not quite wired up properly. That's why I actively avoid commenting on anything you are closely involved in.

I think on reflection it's best if I don't respond to you in future, so I genuinely wish you well and say

Ah, bless, you're a bit thin skinned at the moment. I take the mickey out of you for your lack of perspective about the BBC and it's bias, and you start calling me a failed pilot (I'd love to know what planet that came from!) and then ramble on about me being the one who's not wired up properly!
So if I'm passive aggressive what does that make you? Just aggressive?

and this ladles and jellyspoons is why PH is going down the tubes ...

[loafer123]

Did anyone else endure the "From fact to fiction" play this evening?

It was surprising there wasn't a "and that was a political party broadcast from the Labour Party" at the end, as it slated cuts as a principle for half an hour.

Why are there never plays about the devastation of profligate spending or not having nuclear weapons? Why are there plays on Radio 4 about the Miners Strike (within the last month!) and not about the jobs destroyed by the unions?

fking biased bds.

[Camoradi]

loafer123 said:

Did anyone else endure the "From fact to fiction" play this evening?

It was surprising there wasn't a "and that was a political party broadcast from the Labour Party" at the end, as it slated cuts as a principle for half an hour.

Why are there never plays about the devastation of profligate spending or not having nuclear weapons? Why are there plays on Radio 4 about the Miners Strike (within the last month!) and not about the jobs destroyed by the unions?

fking biased bds.

I'm afraid I did.

If anyone else wants to suffer for 13 minutes http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zh291

I wonder what point they were trying to make?

[Trif]

Camoradi said:

I'm afraid I did.

If anyone else wants to suffer for 13 minutes http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zh291

I wonder what point they were trying to make?

Well, this is the person who wrote it... https://twitter.com/DanRebellato/with_replies

I can only assume he is a comedian? Or a troll?

[turbobloke]

That chap is seriously deluded. The people of Britain don't listen to Radio 4 they're far more likely to read PH's favourite newspaper, the Daily Mail.