Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
Adam Ansel said:
The problem with the BBC is something called news reach. Basically it is a measure of where the population consume their news from. Across all media; TV, Radio, newspapers and internet the BBC have about 50% of the total UK news reach, which gives them immense power, certainly more power than the government has. In addition by using ommission, commission, prevarication and equivocation in all its other programming the BBC is a very powerful propaganda tool.
This is not the BBC that Reith built in 1927–1938, he believed in presenting all viewpoints in a debate. The BBC was hijacked by the socialists immediately after WW2, to become the "social conditioning" arm of the "post war consensus". So programmes like The Archers and Mrs Dale's Diary were intended to manipulate mass conciousness. East Enders continues the tradition.
The BBC does not follow the agenda or policies of any political party, it is so powerful that it can follow its own. The people in control are mostly Oxbridge liberals (with a small l) who have zero real world experience, but who are conviced of their own superiority and their divine right to manipulate large numbers of issues in British society. They are also statists, they believe that the government can and should do everything, even when all the evidence is that it is always pretty useless and that the free market always does everything better.
Let's take a look at some of their policies:
Global warming. The BBC is 100% warmist and gets rid of sceptics its employment. Across all its programming it presents MMGW as a fact and never presents the vast amount of contrary evidence.
Science. The BBC's attitude to science seems to be to ask Greenpeace. They have totally lost sight of the scientific method.
Multiculturalism, diversity etc. This is mainstream BBC mantra. People of different cultures are purely here to enrich us, they never cause any social harm and terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Islam.
Homosexuality. The BBC actively promote this at every opportunity, you would think it was compulsory. They are very anti traditional "family" values.
Bankers. These are the devil incarnate. The BBC seem blind to the fact that financial services employ more than 2 million people and create a huge trade surplus, they are also our biggest source of GVA and of tax revenue. Without financial services everyone else would have to pay 50% more income tax!
Zionism. Very many of the top people at the BBC are Zionists, so the Zionist world view is promoted at every opportunity. BBC reporting of the Palestinian conflict is massively one sided.
The EU. The BBC is incredibly pro EU. They are determined to win the referendum and they may well succeed. Certainly the sceptic view will get short shrift.
Redistribution. The BBC hates people being successful and believes they should be punished with punitive taxes for being evil. The BBC believe that unsuccessful people should be rewarded by the state using the money appropriated from successful people. The BBC are the main promotors of class warfare in Britain.
Trade Unions. To the BBC these people are saints, especially within the NHS. The BBC will never report the vast harm they cause within our society. Destroying jobs, destroying companies and destroying whole industries (steel being the latest).
Sunni/Shia. The BBC follow the FCO line here of unconditionally supporting Sunni and slagging off Shia at every opportunity. The Saudis are saints, so matter how many schools and hospitals they bomb in Yemen and how much they suppress their own population and sponsor global terrorism.
Overall the BBC are a great force for harm within British society. They really need breaking up and selling off as a matter of some urgency. The state should have nothing to do with owning or controlling the media. No individual or comnpany should be allowed more than 10% of news reach, so Murdoch (with about 20%) also needs his wings clipping.
Wow! I had to quote that lot for posterity. I can imagine the last paragraph being typed out whilst you were hitting vinegar strokes over a picture of Maggie...This is not the BBC that Reith built in 1927–1938, he believed in presenting all viewpoints in a debate. The BBC was hijacked by the socialists immediately after WW2, to become the "social conditioning" arm of the "post war consensus". So programmes like The Archers and Mrs Dale's Diary were intended to manipulate mass conciousness. East Enders continues the tradition.
The BBC does not follow the agenda or policies of any political party, it is so powerful that it can follow its own. The people in control are mostly Oxbridge liberals (with a small l) who have zero real world experience, but who are conviced of their own superiority and their divine right to manipulate large numbers of issues in British society. They are also statists, they believe that the government can and should do everything, even when all the evidence is that it is always pretty useless and that the free market always does everything better.
Let's take a look at some of their policies:
Global warming. The BBC is 100% warmist and gets rid of sceptics its employment. Across all its programming it presents MMGW as a fact and never presents the vast amount of contrary evidence.
Science. The BBC's attitude to science seems to be to ask Greenpeace. They have totally lost sight of the scientific method.
Multiculturalism, diversity etc. This is mainstream BBC mantra. People of different cultures are purely here to enrich us, they never cause any social harm and terrorism has absolutely nothing to do with Islam.
Homosexuality. The BBC actively promote this at every opportunity, you would think it was compulsory. They are very anti traditional "family" values.
Bankers. These are the devil incarnate. The BBC seem blind to the fact that financial services employ more than 2 million people and create a huge trade surplus, they are also our biggest source of GVA and of tax revenue. Without financial services everyone else would have to pay 50% more income tax!
Zionism. Very many of the top people at the BBC are Zionists, so the Zionist world view is promoted at every opportunity. BBC reporting of the Palestinian conflict is massively one sided.
The EU. The BBC is incredibly pro EU. They are determined to win the referendum and they may well succeed. Certainly the sceptic view will get short shrift.
Redistribution. The BBC hates people being successful and believes they should be punished with punitive taxes for being evil. The BBC believe that unsuccessful people should be rewarded by the state using the money appropriated from successful people. The BBC are the main promotors of class warfare in Britain.
Trade Unions. To the BBC these people are saints, especially within the NHS. The BBC will never report the vast harm they cause within our society. Destroying jobs, destroying companies and destroying whole industries (steel being the latest).
Sunni/Shia. The BBC follow the FCO line here of unconditionally supporting Sunni and slagging off Shia at every opportunity. The Saudis are saints, so matter how many schools and hospitals they bomb in Yemen and how much they suppress their own population and sponsor global terrorism.
Overall the BBC are a great force for harm within British society. They really need breaking up and selling off as a matter of some urgency. The state should have nothing to do with owning or controlling the media. No individual or comnpany should be allowed more than 10% of news reach, so Murdoch (with about 20%) also needs his wings clipping.
andymadmak said:
mph1977 said:
yes i do know what Sociopath means ,
- antisocial behavioural traits
- often criminal or sees no wrong in certain forms of crime
- little or no moral responsibility
- lacks a social consciousness
- uses others for their own ends
sums up the powerfully built be-goatteed company director very well ...
I don't think you have the foggiest idea what makes a company director. - antisocial behavioural traits
- often criminal or sees no wrong in certain forms of crime
- little or no moral responsibility
- lacks a social consciousness
- uses others for their own ends
sums up the powerfully built be-goatteed company director very well ...
don4l said:
Do you really believe that all company directors are sociopaths?
Are the people who employ you sociopaths?
You come across as an ungratefulb
d person.
Clearly, you are incapable of making your own way in life. You rely on others to provide you with the means to feed your family. Yet, you still feel hostility towards the people who pay all of your bills.
To cap it all, you accuse others of being sociopaths.
If you reply to this, then I think that you should accuse me of gross hypocrisy.
no I don't believe all company Directors are sociopaths just the powerfully buult be goatted ones with a shopping bag full of of red bull and frozen sauasages ... Are the people who employ you sociopaths?
You come across as an ungrateful
dClearly, you are incapable of making your own way in life. You rely on others to provide you with the means to feed your family. Yet, you still feel hostility towards the people who pay all of your bills.
To cap it all, you accuse others of being sociopaths.
If you reply to this, then I think that you should accuse me of gross hypocrisy.
PH and NP&E in particular are an echo chamber for a certain minority worldview and there seems to be a reluctance to admit this among many posters
No need to accuse you of hypocrisy, as i think suggesting that you have sought to personalise this discussion by making direct individual insults towards me
care to substantiate your accusations about other people paying my bills ... are you implying that i am a 'dole bludger' or are you just demonstrating the lack of basic economic knowledge that is common in this echo chamber ...
tangerine_sedge said:
Wow! I had to quote that lot for posterity. I can imagine the last paragraph being typed out whilst you were hitting vinegar strokes over a picture of Maggie...
Looking at Graham's hierarchy of disagreement you seem to have failed completely in this discussion by being abusive.
Adam Ansel said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Wow! I had to quote that lot for posterity. I can imagine the last paragraph being typed out whilst you were hitting vinegar strokes over a picture of Maggie...
Looking at Graham's hierarchy of disagreement you seem to have failed completely in this discussion by being abusive.
mph1977 said:
...PH and NP&E in particular are an echo chamber for a certain minority worldview and there seems to be a reluctance to admit this among many posters...
Shame we didn't have a national poll to establish how the country sees things. Last May? One party won a majority against the predictions - predictions supported and repeated ad nauseam by the national broadcaster (just to bring the thread back towards it's theme)...As for the pro-Zionist theme - WTF? When the IDF popped into Gaza last time to smite their neighbours I do not recall anything remotely pro-Israel making the BBC news. Even this past month the Beeb managed to find an anti-Israel slant on the migrant crisis.
The Don of Croy said:
As for the pro-Zionist theme - WTF? When the IDF popped into Gaza last time to smite their neighbours I do not recall anything remotely pro-Israel making the BBC news. Even this past month the Beeb managed to find an anti-Israel slant on the migrant crisis.
I've always found the Beeb a bit anti-Israel if anything. Any time anything kicks off thataways they send some female correspondent with a sort of strangulated Irish American accent (they have about three the same) to go and sound horrified over the plight of the poor Palestinians. 
The Don of Croy said:
As for the pro-Zionist theme - WTF? When the IDF popped into Gaza last time to smite their neighbours I do not recall anything remotely pro-Israel making the BBC news. Even this past month the Beeb managed to find an anti-Israel slant on the migrant crisis.
But it's a perfect example of someone seeing bias in the BBC based on nothing more than their own POV. Almost everyone on this thread will agree that the BBC is not pro-Zionist. Yet almost everyone will also agree that it is pro-Labour/the left. mph1977 said:
don4l said:
mph1977 said:
Zod said:
ou exaggerate and thus undermine some good points, but to claim that the BBC is Zionist and anti-Palestinian goes beyond hyperbole to turning the world upside down.
which refelcts the whole confirmation bias undermines the discussion here ongoing school of thought , as PH is an Echo CHamber for those of a libertarian / US right wing / somewhat sociopathic world view I wonder if you know what it means...
- antisocial behavioural traits
- often criminal or sees no wrong in certain forms of crime
- little or no moral responsibility
- lacks a social consciousness
- uses others for their own ends
sums up the powerfully built be-goatteed company director very well ...
PETA, Greenpeace, ALF, all quite happy to do all of the above achieve their wishes.
mph1977 said:
don4l said:
mph1977 said:
Zod said:
ou exaggerate and thus undermine some good points, but to claim that the BBC is Zionist and anti-Palestinian goes beyond hyperbole to turning the world upside down.
which refelcts the whole confirmation bias undermines the discussion here ongoing school of thought , as PH is an Echo CHamber for those of a libertarian / US right wing / somewhat sociopathic world view I wonder if you know what it means...
- antisocial behavioural traits
- often criminal or sees no wrong in certain forms of crime
- little or no moral responsibility
- lacks a social consciousness
- uses others for their own ends
sums up the powerfully built be-goatteed company director very well ...
Do you get kicks out of displaying your moral superiority over people who lack a social concience?
WinstonWolf said:
It definitely sums up every leftie I've ever met...
PETA, Greenpeace, ALF, all quite happy to do all of the above achieve their wishes.
the rent -a -mob sociopaths are very similar regardless of whether they are 'left' or 'right' - hence the political model that some use where left and right wraps back on it's self to create a ring ... it;s all aobut an excuse / reason to exercise their anarchistic urges ... PETA, Greenpeace, ALF, all quite happy to do all of the above achieve their wishes.
with the Stalins / Hitlers or this world at 6 o'clock , socially central , classical liberal economic wise at midday , and clause 4 labour at 9 o clock and traditional uK tory at 3o'clock
Today there has been excellent news from Surrey. Oil has been struck, and more than 400 barrels per day of high quality oil is freely flowing.
I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
don4l said:
Today there has been excellent news from Surrey. Oil has been struck, and more than 400 barrels per day of high quality oil is freely flowing.
I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
Did you look on their website?I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35586932
Halb said:
Did you look on their website?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35586932
It wasn't there when I looked.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35586932
don4l said:
Today there has been excellent news from Surrey. Oil has been struck, and more than 400 barrels per day of high quality oil is freely flowing.
I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
They'll have to ask Natalie Bennett if this is a good thing. Or Caroline Lucas. Or Friends of the Earth. Only then might they allude to jobs + prosperity + sustainability if all the proceeds are invested in renewables.I cannot find this on the BBC. I wonder why not!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3449...
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