Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
Discussion
Don said:
I just don't watch the BBC anymore and I view it as an anachronism. If I could find a way to not pay for the majority of its output I would. Of course - it does produce things I want to watch occasionally and I'd be happy to purchase those...
I don't watch live TV anymore. Everything is streamed or recorded.
I still have a TV capable of receiving BBC broadcasts, though, so I reluctantly pay the TV licence. I'd prefer a subscription or a PAYG service, though, as it would suit my viewing habits better and be cheaper for me. I won't get that wish but there it is...
Not to sidetrack the thread but you only need a licence if you watch or record live TV. The capability to watch or record live tv does not matter. With streaming services you don't really need to record anymore either.I don't watch live TV anymore. Everything is streamed or recorded.
I still have a TV capable of receiving BBC broadcasts, though, so I reluctantly pay the TV licence. I'd prefer a subscription or a PAYG service, though, as it would suit my viewing habits better and be cheaper for me. I won't get that wish but there it is...
Enjoy your £140ish annual saving!
Don said:
I just don't watch the BBC anymore and I view it as an anachronism.
So you don't watch BBC because of a political stance, is that it?It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
Crush said:
Don said:
I just don't watch the BBC anymore and I view it as an anachronism. If I could find a way to not pay for the majority of its output I would. Of course - it does produce things I want to watch occasionally and I'd be happy to purchase those...
I don't watch live TV anymore. Everything is streamed or recorded.
I still have a TV capable of receiving BBC broadcasts, though, so I reluctantly pay the TV licence. I'd prefer a subscription or a PAYG service, though, as it would suit my viewing habits better and be cheaper for me. I won't get that wish but there it is...
Not to sidetrack the thread but you only need a licence if you watch or record live TV. The capability to watch or record live tv does not matter. With streaming services you don't really need to record anymore either.I don't watch live TV anymore. Everything is streamed or recorded.
I still have a TV capable of receiving BBC broadcasts, though, so I reluctantly pay the TV licence. I'd prefer a subscription or a PAYG service, though, as it would suit my viewing habits better and be cheaper for me. I won't get that wish but there it is...
Enjoy your £140ish annual saving!
Derek Smith said:
So you don't watch BBC because of a political stance, is that it?
It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
I've been watching less and less telly over the last couple of years.It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
These days, I tend to spend the evening on YouTube.
If an old fart like me has drifted away, what are the youth doing?
The BBC are constantly engaged in social engineering, rather than entertainment. Once you notice it, it becomes very irritating.
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
Derek Smith said:
Don said:
I just don't watch the BBC anymore and I view it as an anachronism.
So you don't watch BBC because of a political stance, is that it?It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
But for many people the political principle is way more important than this. We'll miss it when it's gone and we only have TV that's as expensive/rubbish as everyone else.Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice......oh please. |Only those in a like mind with the BBC "staff" are not moaning.
The question is falling on the obvious political bias shown by the BBC in news reporting which they seemed to of morphed into a platform for their personal views.
Another "problem" is with the political interviewers who have recently morphed into "talking machines" which talk over everybody they "interview" from either Left or Right.
The question is falling on the obvious political bias shown by the BBC in news reporting which they seemed to of morphed into a platform for their personal views.
Another "problem" is with the political interviewers who have recently morphed into "talking machines" which talk over everybody they "interview" from either Left or Right.
Stickyfinger said:
Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice......oh please. |Only those in a like mind with the BBC "staff" are not moaning.
The question is falling on the obvious political bias shown by the BBC in news reporting which they seemed to of morphed into a platform for their personal views.
Another "problem" is with the political interviewers who have recently morphed into "talking machines" which talk over everybody they "interview" from either Left or Right.
other than the petition on change.org claimign that Laura what'shername is ' horrendously biased tothe right wing ' ... The question is falling on the obvious political bias shown by the BBC in news reporting which they seemed to of morphed into a platform for their personal views.
Another "problem" is with the political interviewers who have recently morphed into "talking machines" which talk over everybody they "interview" from either Left or Right.
don4l said:
Derek Smith said:
So you don't watch BBC because of a political stance, is that it?
It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
I've been watching less and less telly over the last couple of years.It has brilliant programmes, and that is why Murdoch hates it and requires those MPs it supports to attack it as the price of his media empire's support.
A list of the absolute brilliant BBC programmes would be long. A list of BBC programmes that different sections of the British public enjoy would be long as well.
I've got American friends and whenever they come over to the UK all I hear is praise for the BBC. Their almost all privately owned TV is, according to them, is after the lowest of the low.
Their PBS anachronism has produced some excellent programmes as well. But nowhere near the output of the BBC in volume or quality.
The political attack on the BBC started with Murdoch. Blair and Cameron both bowed to the pressure of Murdoch. Ignore your politics and look at the programmes with an unprejudiced eye.
I've just watched a BBC satirical programme recorded from yesterday and it went in with both feet on Corbyn. Yet there is no left wingers moaning a bout prejudice.
Little Jimmy Murdoch will, no doubt, be on the McTaggart lectures again. Watch him with interest. Whatever he says will be the subject of moans on PH in no time.
These days, I tend to spend the evening on YouTube.
If an old fart like me has drifted away, what are the youth doing?
The BBC are constantly engaged in social engineering, rather than entertainment. Once you notice it, it becomes very irritating.
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
To give you an idea of how grating their ignorance of their own social engineering can be (and how they don't see it because of their ingrained mindset), a couple of days ago I caught something on Radio4. They were interviewing the author of Boy Meets Girl (???) - some comedy show about transgender issues. Fair enough, if you can find comedy in such a subject. However the interviewee made it *extremely* clear that the comedy was a wrapper intended to hide an (because we don't know quite what it is) agenda. She made a comment along the lines of "if we can educate and inform them while we're at it, then why not?" - which, in itself isn't such a big deal (aside from the othering of the audience - a pure manifestation of the "auntie knows best" mindset) until you realise that programme was positioned as a sitcom.
Where was the overt decision making around the values that were being espoused? Where was the signposting that there was an agenda at play? More significantly, why did the BBC not see a need to recognise the presence of an agenda - or maybe it didn't see this need because the (implicit) agenda - whatever it was - fitted its own world view.
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
Countdown said:
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
limpsfield said:
Countdown said:
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
Mr GrimNasty said:
limpsfield said:
Countdown said:
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
So I got this response from the BBC complaint I made re newsnight.
"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
Countdown said:
desolate said:
don4l said:
Recently, there was a police drama. Nearly all of the coppers were female. The only blokes were either black, or gay.
I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
What was the name of the police drama?I really do not have a problem with female police officers, but let's have some semblance of reality.
I don't remember the name of the programme. I only watched it for 5 minutes.
jsf said:
So I got this response from the BBC complaint I made re newsnight.
"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
Standard BBC reply to criticism. Just change the names, rinse and repeat. My wife complained when Joan Bakewell said 'b"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
ks' on a midday radio programme (News Quiz) on a Saturday. It was excused because she was quoting from a programme aired post-watershed. For God's sake, is that the best they can do?motco said:
jsf said:
So I got this response from the BBC complaint I made re newsnight.
"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
Standard BBC reply to criticism. Just change the names, rinse and repeat. My wife complained when Joan Bakewell said 'b"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
ks' on a midday radio programme (News Quiz) on a Saturday. It was excused because she was quoting from a programme aired post-watershed. For God's sake, is that the best they can do?One only has to watch 'Newswatch', described as "Viewers' opinions on the coverage of events by BBC News, addressed by the editors and decision makers ...". I used to watch it until it became too frustrating.
I genuinely can not remember anyone ever admitting they may have got it wrong. It's the viewers who just can't understand things.
jsf said:
So I got this response from the BBC complaint I made re newsnight.
"Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
I complained about Davis in 2014 and got a similar reply."Thanks for contacting us about Newsnight, broadcast on 29 June 2016.
We appreciate some viewers felt presenter Evan Davis challenged Crispin Blunt MP too much during an interview on the EU referendum result and Conservative Party leadership campaign.
We spoke to the editorial team at Newsnight about your complaint. They explained that frequently, interviewers get criticised for not being tough enough on interviewees who try to duck questions. It’s certainly fair to say Evan’s exasperation came through in this interview, but we believe that on balance it was a perfectly fair encounter in which Mr Blunt was given plenty of opportunity to make his points and answer Evan’s questions.
We do recognise, though, that what is a “tough accountability” interview for some, can come across differently for others and we will certainly bear our viewers’ concerns in mind as we plan future interviews.
We hope this goes some way in addressing your concerns, thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Kind Regards
BBC Complaints Team
www.bbc.co.uk/complaints
NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided."
Totally deluded response, he wasn't allowed to answer.
First, My complaint:-
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Sent: 26 March 2014 08:49
To: Today Complaints
Subject: Ian Duncan-Smith interview
This morning's interview with Ian Duncan-Smith was disgusting.
If Evan Davis cannot hide his own political views, then he should not be
interviewing politicians.
Has the BBC abandoned all pretence of impartiality?
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Next, the reply:-
Dear Mr. 4l
Thank you for your email. I accept this morning's interview with Mr Duncan-Smith was pretty robust and certainly Evan Davis interrupted several times with some vigorous questioning. But a challenging interview is not a demonstration of bias, It is about holding those in power (like the Secretary of State) to account for their policies and beliefs, particularly on an issue as important as welfare reform.. That is a key part of what the 'Today' programme is for, and it does not matter which political party the guest comes from.
For the first few minutes of the interview there were in fact very few interjections. Mr Duncan-Smith had plenty of opportunity to explain the welfare cap and how it might work. Equally however it was right for Evan Davis to challenge him with a concrete example of where difficult choices might have to be made. Testing possible weaknesses in a policy is again a vital part of a 'Today' interview.
I'm sorry if you found it distracted from the argument. There's always a difficult balance to strike between intervening (to keep the interview to the point or raise a specific question) or allowing a guest to continue talking. We do not however offer politicians a platform to explain their policies without challenge. There are many other ways they can get over their message in that way (newspaper articles, leaflets, speeches etc) but it is not part of the regular format of the 'Today' programme.
I hope this explains our thinking,
Yours sincerely,
Dominic Groves
Assistant Editor
'Today'
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They don't give a damn.
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