Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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coppice

8,638 posts

145 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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turbobloke said:
The BBC's head honcho Lord Hall has appointed an ex-Labour minister and culture luvvie as the broadcaster's new radio and education chief - without advertising the position - ~£300k of pure lefty cronyism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/29/bbc-to-...
Whereas a right wing boss would have said 'hold on mate, must have a fair and open recruitment process , open to all regardless of suitabillty '?

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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turbobloke said:
Just in case there's anyone who still doesn't know the score, the primary source here is the comedian.



Radio 4 comic says he was told he had to go because the BBC wanted more women and minorities.
That is absolutely, bloody, fantastic.

Holmes was an insufferable, politically correct, right-on, lefty.

I'm sure that he will be very pleased to have been sacked to promote "diversity".

After all, he has been promoting diversity for years. Losing his job is a small price to pay for the greater good. rofl




turbobloke

104,070 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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don4l said:
turbobloke said:
Just in case there's anyone who still doesn't know the score, the primary source here is the comedian.



Radio 4 comic says he was told he had to go because the BBC wanted more women and minorities.
That is absolutely, bloody, fantastic.

Holmes was an insufferable, politically correct, right-on, lefty.

I'm sure that he will be very pleased to have been sacked to promote "diversity".

After all, he has been promoting diversity for years. Losing his job is a small price to pay for the greater good. rofl
hehe irony to the rescue sonar

andymadmak

14,609 posts

271 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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coppice said:
turbobloke said:
The BBC's head honcho Lord Hall has appointed an ex-Labour minister and culture luvvie as the broadcaster's new radio and education chief - without advertising the position - ~£300k of pure lefty cronyism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/29/bbc-to-...
Whereas a right wing boss would have said 'hold on mate, must have a fair and open recruitment process , open to all regardless of suitabillty '?
I think the point is that whatever the political views of "the boss", there absolutely SHOULD have been a fair and open recruitment process , open to all.
(Not sure what your point about "regardless of suitability" is, unless you're implying that Purnell was the ONLY man in the country suitable for the job and as such any open process would have been a waste of time and money?)

turbobloke

104,070 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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andymadmak said:
coppice said:
turbobloke said:
The BBC's head honcho Lord Hall has appointed an ex-Labour minister and culture luvvie as the broadcaster's new radio and education chief - without advertising the position - ~£300k of pure lefty cronyism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/29/bbc-to-...
Whereas a right wing boss would have said 'hold on mate, must have a fair and open recruitment process , open to all regardless of suitabillty '?
I think the point is that whatever the political views of "the boss", there absolutely SHOULD have been a fair and open recruitment process , open to all.
Exactly that, and any bias to the Right in terms of process or fait accompli outcome would be just as wrong.

The bias is the problem not its direction.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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don4l said:
That is absolutely, bloody, fantastic.

Holmes was an insufferable, politically correct, right-on, lefty.

I'm sure that he will be very pleased to have been sacked to promote "diversity".

After all, he has been promoting diversity for years. Losing his job is a small price to pay for the greater good. rofl
No it's only ok when its other people

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Pesty said:
don4l said:
That is absolutely, bloody, fantastic.

Holmes was an insufferable, politically correct, right-on, lefty.

I'm sure that he will be very pleased to have been sacked to promote "diversity".

After all, he has been promoting diversity for years. Losing his job is a small price to pay for the greater good. rofl
No it's only ok when its other people
We can only hope that the privately educated Brigstocke will also be asked to make way for a more deserving case.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Well I'm not funny or smart but will broken home, council estate, leaving school at 15 get me a top BBC job? Could probably claim minority status too.

Is that good for 300k a year?

rohrl

8,746 posts

146 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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The BBC has been accused of inflaming racial tension after trying to recruit supporters of the EDL to appear in the audience on Question Time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/bbc-acc...

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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rohrl said:
The BBC has been accused of inflaming racial tension after trying to recruit supporters of the EDL to appear in the audience on Question Time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/bbc-acc...
That's just a further proof how lefty BBC actually is. They either knew that EDL supporters wouldn't come, or they wanted to paint the right wing in a bad light, or it's a sneaky ploy to try to cover how lefty they actually are.

Or strawman, appeal to authority, secondary sources, public sector.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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notice they had the Shadow Chancellor commenting on the Chancellors speech today cant remember that happening last week?.

Camoradi

4,294 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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johnxjsc1985 said:
notice they had the Shadow Chancellor commenting on the Chancellors speech today cant remember that happening last week?.
Like most of us, Phillip Hammond was probably speechless on hearing John Mcdonnells speech smile

Randy Winkman

16,214 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
rohrl said:
The BBC has been accused of inflaming racial tension after trying to recruit supporters of the EDL to appear in the audience on Question Time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/bbc-acc...
That's just a further proof how lefty BBC actually is. They either knew that EDL supporters wouldn't come, or they wanted to paint the right wing in a bad light, or it's a sneaky ploy to try to cover how lefty they actually are.

Or strawman, appeal to authority, secondary sources, public sector.
I thought the PH view was that people like the EDL are left wingers anyway?

turbobloke

104,070 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Randy Winkman said:
jjlynn27 said:
rohrl said:
The BBC has been accused of inflaming racial tension after trying to recruit supporters of the EDL to appear in the audience on Question Time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/bbc-acc...
That's just a further proof how lefty BBC actually is. They either knew that EDL supporters wouldn't come, or they wanted to paint the right wing in a bad light, or it's a sneaky ploy to try to cover how lefty they actually are.

Or strawman, appeal to authority, secondary sources, public sector.
I thought the PH view was that people like the EDL are left wingers anyway?
silly

If the above irony-flavoured tripe is the best that beeb apologists can muster in the face of self-evident and self-confessed BBC left-wing bias, there's no effective defence available - otherwise it would surely have been put to use.

Trying to recruit EDL members to a QT audience is hardly the common sense way to move towards a less lefty-biased and more politically neutral audience. There are less inflammatory means available.

Countdown

39,991 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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jjlynn27 said:
rohrl said:
The BBC has been accused of inflaming racial tension after trying to recruit supporters of the EDL to appear in the audience on Question Time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/bbc-acc...
That's just a further proof how lefty BBC actually is. They either knew that EDL supporters wouldn't come, or they wanted to paint the right wing in a bad light, or it's a sneaky ploy to try to cover how lefty they actually are.

Or strawman, appeal to authority, secondary sources, public sector.
Trying to make sure the audience reflects a cross-section of the population.... damned if they do, damned if they don't.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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Guess the headline and the first sentence on the IMF update news anyone?

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37552076

I think the second sentence in the article is my favourite..."Although the IMF raised its prediction for UK GDP growth this year to 1.8%, the figure for 2017 was cut to 1.1%."

hehe

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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London424 said:
Guess the headline and the first sentence on the IMF update news anyone?

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37552076

I think the second sentence in the article is my favourite..."Although the IMF raised its prediction for UK GDP growth this year to 1.8%, the figure for 2017 was cut to 1.1%."

hehe
Unbelievable!
Back in April, the BBC reported that "The Fund said a Brexit vote would result in a "protracted period of heightened uncertainty" and could result in a sharp rise in interest rates, cause volatility on financial markets and damage London's status as a global financial centre."

Wh have had a cut in interest rates.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36284200

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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[quote=Why rising shares aren't a sign of joy
[/quote]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37553566

How in God's name do you manage to put a negative spin on a strong stoock market.

The FTSE250 closed at an all time high. That isn't impartial. It is a typical lefty trying to talk his country down.

greygoose

8,274 posts

196 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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don4l said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37553566

How in God's name do you manage to put a negative spin on a strong stoock market.

The FTSE250 closed at an all time high. That isn't impartial. It is a typical lefty trying to talk his country down.
Aren't the stock market gains down to the pound plunging against the dollar so companies with earnings in dollars gain more when they exchange to pounds?

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Tuesday 4th October 2016
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greygoose said:
don4l said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37553566

How in God's name do you manage to put a negative spin on a strong stoock market.

The FTSE250 closed at an all time high. That isn't impartial. It is a typical lefty trying to talk his country down.
Aren't the stock market gains down to the pound plunging against the dollar so companies with earnings in dollars gain more when they exchange to pounds?
That is what the BBC would have you believe. However, that doesn't explain why the FTSE250 has done even better than the FTSE100.

Exporters are having a great time at the moment, but the FTSE250 companies are not reliant on exports. They sell to the UK.

Two things are happening. Interest rates are very low(0.5 - 1.5)on both savings accounts and bonds. You can easily get 4% on fairly safe shares, and the shares might also increase in value. So why would you keep savings in a bank. Pension funds are also under pressure to move from bonds to shares.

The other thing is that, despite Project Fear, consumer confidence and spending are actually quite high. So the outlook is very positive.


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