Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely
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R4 afternoon drama; it's about the perils of being a refugee, dispossessed, powerless and subject to the travails of immigration officials, criminals etc. There are plenty of places where this is happening right now to real people but this has been written as a petulant swipe at Brexit, portraying a cardboard cutout dystopia made of separated parts of the UK. The scriptwriter's petted lip is audible throughout.
jjlynn27 said:
gruffalo said:
Efbe said:
gruffalo said:
Efbe said:
alock said:
Percentage of GDP should peak when a recession hits and then decline as the economy recovers. Looks like a healthy funding graph to me.
My concern is people who see a graph going downwards and assume that means something bad. The person who created that graph is attempting to misdirected people.
Not when the cost of healthcare is going up.My concern is people who see a graph going downwards and assume that means something bad. The person who created that graph is attempting to misdirected people.
I expect us to be close to the top, we are Britain, we should not be the bargain basement, "it'll do" part of Europe. We are more than this.
And yes I know Blair only started it, they(politicians) are all short termist f
kers 
As I understand it this chart shows state spend in the UK vs total spend else where. What do the figures look like taking into account total spend rather than just state spend?
I would love to see the complete picture for once.
I firmly believe that health should be outside the political arena, the NHS needs such massive reform that it is time to start from scratch with one binding principle that "free at the point of delivery is not negotiable.
It has to be combined when comparing against Europe as there are so many different systems.
The next thing I wold like to see is the numbers of procedures completed for the money, so the efficiency can be compared, just spend is a rather blunt instrument as value for money is ignored.
I have no idea what the answer is to the NHS but chucking lorry loads of cash at it doesn't seem to work.
People can actually read about comparative studies by people who do this year in year out, or they can scan daily mail, and perpetuate click-bait idiocies spouted.
Want even better results? Get people to eat less, exercise more, and get the number of teenage pregnancies down. Get social and old age care sorted so that people don't end up in hospitals for months on end.
I agree time to sort out old age, social and mental care as well as eat more healthy and exercise more.
hidetheelephants said:
R4 afternoon drama; it's about the perils of being a refugee, dispossessed, powerless and subject to the travails of immigration officials, criminals etc. There are plenty of places where this is happening right now to real people but this has been written as a petulant swipe at Brexit, portraying a cardboard cutout dystopia made of separated parts of the UK. The scriptwriter's petted lip is audible throughout.
R4's full of it.Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
jjlynn27 said:
Been done so many times, and always the same on every NHS (and non-NHS thread) that pops about. Comparatively to other systems, NHS is very efficient. Unfortunately, people want to get enraged about some stupid clock that some numpty commissioned, as if it was representative of the whole NHS.
People can actually read about comparative studies by people who do this year in year out, or they can scan daily mail, and perpetuate click-bait idiocies spouted.
Want even better results? Get people to eat less, exercise more, and get the number of teenage pregnancies down. Get social and old age care sorted so that people don't end up in hospitals for months on end.
If that table were accurate, which I doubt, and in any case is too simplistic to be meaningful, then the implication is that we're doing fine so what are we worried about?People can actually read about comparative studies by people who do this year in year out, or they can scan daily mail, and perpetuate click-bait idiocies spouted.
Want even better results? Get people to eat less, exercise more, and get the number of teenage pregnancies down. Get social and old age care sorted so that people don't end up in hospitals for months on end.
We should be looking to assist some of the other countries who seem to be in deep s
t....Randy Winkman said:
mybrainhurts said:
R4's full of it.
Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
Are you able to find a better alternative?Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
REALIST123 said:
jjlynn27 said:
Been done so many times, and always the same on every NHS (and non-NHS thread) that pops about. Comparatively to other systems, NHS is very efficient. Unfortunately, people want to get enraged about some stupid clock that some numpty commissioned, as if it was representative of the whole NHS.
People can actually read about comparative studies by people who do this year in year out, or they can scan daily mail, and perpetuate click-bait idiocies spouted.
Want even better results? Get people to eat less, exercise more, and get the number of teenage pregnancies down. Get social and old age care sorted so that people don't end up in hospitals for months on end.
If that table were accurate, which I doubt, and in any case is too simplistic to be meaningful, then the implication is that we're doing fine so what are we worried about?People can actually read about comparative studies by people who do this year in year out, or they can scan daily mail, and perpetuate click-bait idiocies spouted.
Want even better results? Get people to eat less, exercise more, and get the number of teenage pregnancies down. Get social and old age care sorted so that people don't end up in hospitals for months on end.
We should be looking to assist some of the other countries who seem to be in deep s
t....Or one can read 2.5 clickbait titles @ dailymail and decide that NHS is a bottomless pit.
Given the increased demand and people leaving NHS (I'll limit this to jds that I know), and idiocy of pretend '7 days full on service' there are things to be worried about.
loafer123 said:
Randy Winkman said:
mybrainhurts said:
R4's full of it.
Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
Are you able to find a better alternative?Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
Randy Winkman said:
Fair point - I'm just suggesting that the nearest thing to what you want is on the BBC and is probably only ever going to be supplied by the BBC. Like most things I like.
It's great that you like what the BBC provides, I don't; why do I have to subsidise your enjoyment in order to legally receive the output of other providers?Einion Yrth said:
Randy Winkman said:
Fair point - I'm just suggesting that the nearest thing to what you want is on the BBC and is probably only ever going to be supplied by the BBC. Like most things I like.
It's great that you like what the BBC provides, I don't; why do I have to subsidise your enjoyment in order to legally receive the output of other providers?XCP said:
Einion Yrth said:
It's great that you like what the BBC provides, I don't; why do I have to subsidise your enjoyment in order to legally receive the output of other providers?
You don't. Radio is free. It's TV you pay for.mybrainhurts said:
hidetheelephants said:
R4 afternoon drama; it's about the perils of being a refugee, dispossessed, powerless and subject to the travails of immigration officials, criminals etc. There are plenty of places where this is happening right now to real people but this has been written as a petulant swipe at Brexit, portraying a cardboard cutout dystopia made of separated parts of the UK. The scriptwriter's petted lip is audible throughout.
R4's full of it.Almost every time I turn it on in the car, it very quickly gets switched off.
If it's not this crap, it's women whingeing about their lot.
B'stard Child said:
Excellent so BBC radio don't get a penny from the TV licence fee - excellent I can sleep easy now, strange thing is why do they not have commercials on the radio stations like all the other radio stations?
Thank goodness they don't. One of the strengths of BBC radio. And listening to the radio IS free. You only pay if you choose to have a TV.So, was passing the TV at work and overheard the presenter sounding quite upbeat that the "anti-Trump visit" petition has reached 'x' amount of 'votes' (given down to the exact figure - to make it sound like a long large number), and that it was going to be discussed in parliament.
Strangely that it didn't mention that the "pro-Turmp visit" petition had also breached the threshold for triggering discussion in parliament.
In fact no mention at all over the past week or so about the "pro-Trump visit" petition.
Strangely that it didn't mention that the "pro-Turmp visit" petition had also breached the threshold for triggering discussion in parliament.
In fact no mention at all over the past week or so about the "pro-Trump visit" petition.
Atomic12C said:
So, was passing the TV at work and overheard the presenter sounding quite upbeat that the "anti-Trump visit" petition has reached 'x' amount of 'votes' (given down to the exact figure - to make it sound like a long large number), and that it was going to be discussed in parliament.
Strangely that it didn't mention that the "pro-Turmp visit" petition had also breached the threshold for triggering discussion in parliament.
In fact no mention at all over the past week or so about the "pro-Trump visit" petition.
Both get mentioned - there is weighting but they are both there.Strangely that it didn't mention that the "pro-Turmp visit" petition had also breached the threshold for triggering discussion in parliament.
In fact no mention at all over the past week or so about the "pro-Trump visit" petition.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38967075
B'stard Child said:
Both get mentioned - there is weighting but they are both there.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38967075
Via a website under the banner of the main 'anti-trump' message, a single sentence mention.... but on the TV news that most people would notice - nothing. Zip. Nada.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38967075
XCP said:
B'stard Child said:
Excellent so BBC radio don't get a penny from the TV licence fee - excellent I can sleep easy now, strange thing is why do they not have commercials on the radio stations like all the other radio stations?
Thank goodness they don't. One of the strengths of BBC radio. And listening to the radio IS free. You only pay if you choose to have a TV.TTwiggy said:
XCP said:
B'stard Child said:
Excellent so BBC radio don't get a penny from the TV licence fee - excellent I can sleep easy now, strange thing is why do they not have commercials on the radio stations like all the other radio stations?
Thank goodness they don't. One of the strengths of BBC radio. And listening to the radio IS free. You only pay if you choose to have a TV.Saying it's "free" if you don't have a TV is like saying
RFL is free is you don't run a car
Car Insurance is free if you don't run a car
The millions of households in this country that do have a TV (and pay the licence fee) are funding the BBC TV and Radio - It's not free to them
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