Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

[BlackLabel]

Wonder why the headline writers changed their tune?



https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/am...

[jjlynn27]

a) because new information became available.
b) because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

[B'stard Child]

jjlynn27 said:

<snip> because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

First thing you've written in ages that I agree with

[BlackLabel]

jjlynn27 said:

a) because new information became available.
b) because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

Happy to play the religion card when they painted him as a victim, no mention of his religion when he's caught molesting US teens.

[CaptainSlow]

jjlynn27 said:

a) because new information became available.
b) because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

What new information? That he was Indian?

[zarjaz1991]

BlackLabel said:

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Happy to play the religion card when they painted him as a victim, no mention of his religion when he's caught molesting US teens.

More like, the left would be howling with rage if the BBC mentioned that he was a Mulsim alongside the allegations. I suspect the BBC are simply playing it safe here.

[Johnnytheboy]

jjlynn27 said:

a) because new information became available.
b) because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

You do realise that, because of your posting history, the more you try to convince us the BBC isn't biased the more we all think it is?

[SKP555]

zarjaz1991 said:

More like, the left would be howling with rage if the BBC mentioned that he was a Mulsim alongside the allegations. I suspect the BBC are simply playing it safe here.

Probably correct.

The question that raises is why it's "safe" to say he's Muslim when he's complaining of being discriminated against but safer that he becomes Indian when he's arrested for child molestation?

And is this conducive to thorough, even handed coverage from the BBC?

You could argue that him being Muslim was more relevant to the first case, but that's not really true when the "travel ban" very specifically covered 7 countries and not Indians, Muslim or otherwise.

It's not about some shady conspiracy to mislead us all but who influences the BBC's reporting on these matters and what impact that has on their output.

[Blue One]

Yesterday's (Sunday) BBC 'Breakfast' had two items on where they only had an interview with a person from the 'liberal' side. The one I saw in full was about the female judge's recent pronouncement that drunk women need to do more to protect themselves from being taken advantage of by potential rapists. Now to my mind, whatever side of this debate you take, it isn't a 'slam dunk' the judge was simply wrong, it at least deserves debate. Yet, by only getting a survivor/activist who was vehemently opposed to the judge's view (i.e. it is all the fault of the rapist) the BBC was in effect censoring debate on the subject. I find this persistent agenda-driven attached reporting quite nauseating.

[jjlynn27]

Johnnytheboy said:

jjlynn27 said:

a) because new information became available.
b) because BBC is controlled by lizard overlords and lefties who want to keep hard working, god fearing folk misinformed.

You do realise that, because of your posting history, the more you try to convince us the BBC isn't biased the more we all think it is?

You actually 'think' that I'm trying to convince a random bunch of people on the internet? Good one. I'd like to be able to talk about your posting history, but I have absolutely no idea who you are.

[Johnnytheboy]

jjlynn27 said:

I'd like to be able to talk about your posting history, but I have absolutely no idea who you are.

You do know how to... oh never mind.

[Username888]

A "Muslim" When He Has Trouble Getting into the USA.

An "Indian Athlete" When He Starts Molesting American Teenagers.


https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/8405209...

[TTwiggy]

Username888 said:

A "Muslim" When He Has Trouble Getting into the USA.

An "Indian Athlete" When He Starts Molesting American Teenagers.


https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/8405209...

It's almost as if this wasn't mentioned 12 posts above.

[Smiler.]

TTwiggy said:

Username888 said:

A "Muslim" When He Has Trouble Getting into the USA.

An "Indian Athlete" When He Starts Molesting American Teenagers.


https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/8405209...

It's almost as if this wasn't mentioned 12 posts above.

It's almost as if you have a point to make.

[Atomic12C]

Smiler. said:

TTwiggy said:

Username888 said:

A "Muslim" When He Has Trouble Getting into the USA.

An "Indian Athlete" When He Starts Molesting American Teenagers.


https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/8405209...

It's almost as if this wasn't mentioned 12 posts above.

It's almost as if you have a point to make.

Hard to defend obvious attempts of bias. But TTwiggy will try

[TTwiggy]

Smiler. said:

TTwiggy said:

Username888 said:

A "Muslim" When He Has Trouble Getting into the USA.

An "Indian Athlete" When He Starts Molesting American Teenagers.


https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/8405209...

It's almost as if this wasn't mentioned 12 posts above.

It's almost as if you have a point to make.

Just the one - read the thread to easily avoid repetition.

[T6 vanman]

Blue One said:

Unrelated stuff to my post I find this persistent agenda-driven attached reporting quite nauseating.

Prime example today being the reporting of republican support for Donald Trump
Note the underlined message .. is a measly 41%
Now to you & me what do we know about the average approval rating of another countries president??



Well as they say ... Google is your friend (well Gallop anyway)
Statistics of low point approval ratings


Now we know Obama will be massively popular with one demographic / ethnic population in America and overseen a reasonable time in office during economic recovery ... His approval ratings

Several months where his approval ratings are at/below 40%????

The question .... Does the story need is a measly 41% or does this drive the readers opinion??

Edited by T6 vanman on Wednesday 15th March 12:57

[Atomic12C]

The positive element of the rise of social media brings people's heightened awareness of the "news", in that as soon as somebody mentions that what they are reading is actually "opinion and agenda" then it forces people to look at other sources of information - this is a natural reaction, if nothing more only to confirm to yourself that the other person is not taking the pi$$.

The more you follow 'news' from more than one provider it becomes blatantly clear that it is a world of 'information wars' and political swing agendas.

Without internet social media, the TV media and tabloids would still have a firm grip on what people generally take as being 'fact'. I am glad that we are moving and have moved a significant distance away from that stranglehold position.

What I do find as being astonishing and even laughable is that a lot of the TV news and tabloid outlets are seemingly in denial that people can find other 'news' sources to compare. I think they are living in the past whereby internet was not so widely used and people may have only watched BBC or only buy the Guardian for example.

Some of the recent examples by the BBC on this thread show how easily their attempts at bias and agenda can be unearthed with little effort.
And also how blatant those efforts are to push an agenda.

[Efbe]

Atomic12C said:

The positive element of the rise of social media brings people's heightened awareness of the "news", in that as soon as somebody mentions that what they are reading is actually "opinion and agenda" then it forces people to look at other sources of information - this is a natural reaction, if nothing more only to confirm to yourself that the other person is not taking the pi$$.

The more you follow 'news' from more than one provider it becomes blatantly clear that it is a world of 'information wars' and political swing agendas.

Without internet social media, the TV media and tabloids would still have a firm grip on what people generally take as being 'fact'. I am glad that we are moving and have moved a significant distance away from that stranglehold position.

What I do find as being astonishing and even laughable is that a lot of the TV news and tabloid outlets are seemingly in denial that people can find other 'news' sources to compare. I think they are living in the past whereby internet was not so widely used and people may have only watched BBC or only buy the Guardian for example.

Some of the recent examples by the BBC on this thread show how easily their attempts at bias and agenda can be unearthed with little effort.
And also how blatant those efforts are to push an agenda.

Good post

[Tuna]

Atomic12C said:

And also how blatant those efforts are to push an agenda.

I think the mistake people make is to believe there is an agenda. Like any organisation, the BBC tends to hire people who 'fit in' to the corporation's values and views. They recruit through the Guardian and have a very left wing 'media-luvvie' view - because that's what the culture is there. It's not that there is some guy bashing a gong saying "We must promote left wing values" - it's just that the vast majority of people at the BBC come from the standard media backgrounds, and mix with the same crowd of successful media producers who tend to share the same beliefs.

You see the same in the comedy circuit - where right wing comedians are a tiny minority - because the vast number of people coming up through the ranks have come from similar left wing establishments and learnt at similar courses and groups.

You're right though that you learn by comparing and contrasting. There's no point in trying to magic up an 'unbiased' media organisation - there will always be a culture that evolves at any group, encouraging 'group think' on certain issues - so get your news from a range of sources and learn to think critically about what you're being told.