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DMN said:
The upshot of that is it will be even longer before they can start rebuilding their armed forces to be any kind of threat to the Falklands. By the time they start we should have UCAVS and all sorts of nasty stuff on call.
Cynic in me was wondering what she whispered in Putins ear 'ole. "My my Mr Putin, what big a big launcher you have...."Argentina does not even offer security over ownership of assets. Buy something in Argentina like a company or a farm for example, and you run the risk of the government seizing it and deciding that you don't own it anymore.
Political risk in Argentina is high.
The place is a case study in how to alienate a country and deter inward investment.
Political risk in Argentina is high.
The place is a case study in how to alienate a country and deter inward investment.
Argentina rules all public transport must state: 'The Falklands are Argentina'
telegraph said:
“I am certain that this will generate a permanent reflection on our undeniable sovereignty over the Falklands,” wrote Ms Luna, in a letter to the president of the parliament outlining her reasons for introducing the law.
“It is directed not only at the foreigner who comes here as a tourist or visits our country, but also at the citizens in general, and will serve to reinforce our history, our culture and our identity.”
She added that the measure was introduced to “reaffirm our sense of inalienable sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.”
Daniel Filmus, secretary of state for Falkland affairs, gave the measure his approval, and tweeted that the vote had been a success.
“Public transport will carry the message #LasMalvinasSonArgentinas, an initiative from @terelunalarioja approved unanimously,” he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southame...“It is directed not only at the foreigner who comes here as a tourist or visits our country, but also at the citizens in general, and will serve to reinforce our history, our culture and our identity.”
She added that the measure was introduced to “reaffirm our sense of inalienable sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.”
Daniel Filmus, secretary of state for Falkland affairs, gave the measure his approval, and tweeted that the vote had been a success.
“Public transport will carry the message #LasMalvinasSonArgentinas, an initiative from @terelunalarioja approved unanimously,” he said.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 21st November 17:29
FourWheelDrift said:
smegmore said:
Serious question...Could the UK realistically defend the FA against another Argie invasion?
The problem is the Argies being able to get there in the first place.
ruse played out now 'cos we're wise to it?I believe the garrison is stronger now, and more planes are stationed there - they'd have a hard time invading again. The UK likely could retake them, if captured, probably wouldn't be easy without an aircraft carrier though.
Said it before, and I'll say it again - just bomb mainland Argentina if they did invade, park a Type 45 off of the coast and they aren't sending any planes into the sky, that's for sure.
Said it before, and I'll say it again - just bomb mainland Argentina if they did invade, park a Type 45 off of the coast and they aren't sending any planes into the sky, that's for sure.
Lacking in naval shipping, and when the Fleet Flagship
isn't being impounded for failure to pay port fees the only alternative is transport aircraft, which would never get within sight of the islands.
isn't being impounded for failure to pay port fees the only alternative is transport aircraft, which would never get within sight of the islands.
Unhelpful terseness aside, 3 years ago I wrote this; I doubt much has changed, except for the MoD's self-inflicted AAR crisis.
hidetheelephants said:
Falklands defence vote 1982: 60 RM bootys with rifles, gimpys, grenades and a dose of bulldog spirit, FIDF armed with not very much, an unsurfaced airfield only just big enough for a C130, and no naval presence at all.
Falklands defence vote 2012: an augmented battalion with engineer and artillery attachments, radar equipped rapier sections, FIDF with light recon equipment, Mount Pleasant Airfield; a fortified airfield suitable for fast jets, 4 Typhoons with a VC10 tanker, a C130 and 3 SAR choppers, the T23 frigate HMS Montrose, possibly a sleek black bringer of death but as usual it's a secret, and the FI standing patrol ship HMS Clyde.
The Argies aren't getting in without a bloody fight, and it's a fight I believe they would lose.
Falklands defence vote 2012: an augmented battalion with engineer and artillery attachments, radar equipped rapier sections, FIDF with light recon equipment, Mount Pleasant Airfield; a fortified airfield suitable for fast jets, 4 Typhoons with a VC10 tanker, a C130 and 3 SAR choppers, the T23 frigate HMS Montrose, possibly a sleek black bringer of death but as usual it's a secret, and the FI standing patrol ship HMS Clyde.
The Argies aren't getting in without a bloody fight, and it's a fight I believe they would lose.
hidetheelephants said:
Unhelpful terseness aside, 3 years ago I wrote this; I doubt much has changed, except for the MoD's self-inflicted AAR crisis.
The political/personal will to pull the trigger?hidetheelephants said:
Falklands defence vote 1982: 60 RM bootys with rifles, gimpys, grenades and a dose of bulldog spirit, FIDF armed with not very much, an unsurfaced airfield only just big enough for a C130, and no naval presence at all.
Falklands defence vote 2012: an augmented battalion with engineer and artillery attachments, radar equipped rapier sections, FIDF with light recon equipment, Mount Pleasant Airfield; a fortified airfield suitable for fast jets, 4 Typhoons with a VC10 tanker, a C130 and 3 SAR choppers, the T23 frigate HMS Montrose, possibly a sleek black bringer of death but as usual it's a secret, and the FI standing patrol ship HMS Clyde.
The Argies aren't getting in without a bloody fight, and it's a fight I believe they would lose.
Falklands defence vote 2012: an augmented battalion with engineer and artillery attachments, radar equipped rapier sections, FIDF with light recon equipment, Mount Pleasant Airfield; a fortified airfield suitable for fast jets, 4 Typhoons with a VC10 tanker, a C130 and 3 SAR choppers, the T23 frigate HMS Montrose, possibly a sleek black bringer of death but as usual it's a secret, and the FI standing patrol ship HMS Clyde.
The Argies aren't getting in without a bloody fight, and it's a fight I believe they would lose.
Thatcher Vs today's shower...
Edited by Asterix on Saturday 22 November 00:07
smegmore said:
Serious question...Could the UK realistically defend the FA against another Argie invasion?
Easily. ( I worked on the airbase construction project in the 80s).The whole point of MPA is that the islands have sufficient defense capabilities AND can be massively augmented in a day (+/-)
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