More Argie Bargie

[RAFsmoggy]

alfaman said:

If the argies acquire some cast-iron flintstonesque Russian jets - it could add to the amusement of British troops

I can't remember finding any of it amusing or any of the other guy's who were there Alfaman...tbh we were a bit nervous.

[superlightr]

RAFsmoggy said:

alfaman said:

If the argies acquire some cast-iron flintstonesque Russian jets - it could add to the amusement of British troops

I can't remember finding any of it amusing or any of the other guy's who were there Alfaman...tbh we were a bit nervous.

anything being lobbed at you in your foxhole is not very amusing no matter what or where it came or what vintage. Still make a hole in parts of you that does not want a hole.

[Grumfutock]

superlightr said:

RAFsmoggy said:

alfaman said:

If the argies acquire some cast-iron flintstonesque Russian jets - it could add to the amusement of British troops

I can't remember finding any of it amusing or any of the other guy's who were there Alfaman...tbh we were a bit nervous.

anything being lobbed at you in your foxhole is not very amusing no matter what or where it came or what vintage. Still make a hole in parts of you that does not want a hole.

Oh I don't know, I had some good laughs at times, usually when someday else was suffering, but funny anyway.

[alfaman]

RAFsmoggy said:

alfaman said:

If the argies acquire some cast-iron flintstonesque Russian jets - it could add to the amusement of British troops

I can't remember finding any of it amusing or any of the other guy's who were there Alfaman...tbh we were a bit nervous.

I was there building MPA for a couple of years... My point is the current argentine military capability isn't a serious threat.

The relative capabilities back in 82 and just after were more evenly matched ..there was a real threat and danger then ... Which has perhaps now abated ( in a sense of what could be executed , rather than political desire...)

[FourWheelDrift]

Yep, they had some cash back in the 1970s and bought old 2nd hand Skyhawks, Mirage and Super Etendard fighters backed up by turboprop Pucara ground attack aircraft which were still just about capable in the 1980s. Today, they still have 22 Skyhawk, 31 Mirage, 10 Super Etendard (partially operational) Navy fighters and Pucaras...............less than in 1982 and 30+ year old designs.

The Navy is not just a mere shadow of itself but barely able to raise a blur - http://en.mercopress.com/2012/11/22/argentine-navy...


They could ferry over the nationalist thugs from Patagonia, that'd be their only hope.

[onyx39]

FourWheelDrift said:

They could ferry over the nationalist thugs from Patagonia, that'd be their only hope.

[IanMorewood]

FourWheelDrift said:

Yep, they had some cash back in the 1970s and bought old 2nd hand Skyhawks, Mirage and Super Etendard fighters backed up by turboprop Pucara ground attack aircraft which were still just about capable in the 1980s. Today, they still have 22 Skyhawk, 31 Mirage, 10 Super Etendard (partially operational) Navy fighters and Pucaras...............less than in 1982 and 30+ year old designs.

The Navy is not just a mere shadow of itself but barely able to raise a blur - http://en.mercopress.com/2012/11/22/argentine-navy...


They could ferry over the nationalist thugs from Patagonia, that'd be their only hope.

Of the nationalists we have rent a mobs a plenty and if it all went nasty we have lots of battle hardened troops with plenty of modern light armour.

The Navy as you point out is shadow of its former self, the surface fleet would largely stay in port. The bits that could cause problems are the modern(ish) German built submarines.

Air force, major problem is still range you don't have a lot of time to find a target and attack it. Add in the Rapier batteries and the Typhoons and Falklands airspace is somewhere you want to hang about. Half the aircraft are also probably un serviceable and I'm not sure they have enough tankers to support more than a couple of jets.

[bullies180]

seems fishy to me!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southame...

[IanMorewood]

bullies180 said:

seems fishy to me!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southame...

Yep our politicians would never put someone in that sort of position, would they?

[Grumfutock]

Never changes in that part of the world. Corrupt as hell. Poor man.

[hornetrider]

bullies180 said:

seems fishy to me!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southame...

Pffft, coincidence. Totes legit random murder.

[hidetheelephants]

IanMorewood said:

Air force, major problem is still range you don't have a lot of time to find a target and attack it. Add in the Rapier batteries and the Typhoons and Falklands airspace is somewhere you want to hang about. Half the aircraft are also probably un serviceable and I'm not sure they have enough tankers to support more than a couple of jets.

They only have one tanker; that's barely enough to keep people trained in AAR, never mind conduct combat operations. Nice easy target for the secret squirrel people if it kicked off though.

[Grumfutock]

The more I read about this the more is appears that something sinister is afoot!

[2013BRM]

IanMorewood said:

bullies180 said:

seems fishy to me!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southame...

Yep our politicians would never put someone in that sort of position, would they?

Dr David Kelly? oooh no, nothing odd about that whatsoever

[davepoth]

If this plot thickened any more, it would be made of lead.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2...

So it seems that the recently "definitely-not-assassinated" prosecutor in Argentina had made out arrest warrants for Kirchner and the foreign minister Hector Timerman. Definitely nothing dodgy going on there at all.

[Getragdogleg]

davepoth said:

If this plot thickened any more, it would be made of lead.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2...

So it seems that the recently "definitely-not-assassinated" prosecutor in Argentina had made out arrest warrants for Kirchner and the foreign minister Hector Timerman. Definitely nothing dodgy going on there at all.

Its either an internal power struggle or its another Countries Government trying to de-stabilise the Argentinian administration and remove their leader from Power, a hit and document plant would be simple for anyone who has had experience of this, say like Mossad, The US, UK or The Russians ?

Kirchener been offering deals she cant make good on ?

[Neil H]

Kirchner and her late husband embezzled millions from the country during his term in power, so hardly surprising that she's involved in something like this. That whole country is rotten to the core, and the government distract the people with pointless patriotic causes like the Falklands.

[jmorgan]

Getragdogleg said:

davepoth said:

If this plot thickened any more, it would be made of lead.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2...

So it seems that the recently "definitely-not-assassinated" prosecutor in Argentina had made out arrest warrants for Kirchner and the foreign minister Hector Timerman. Definitely nothing dodgy going on there at all.

Its either an internal power struggle or its another Countries Government trying to de-stabilise the Argentinian administration and remove their leader from Power, a hit and document plant would be simple for anyone who has had experience of this, say like Mossad, The US, UK or The Russians ?

Kirchener been offering deals she cant make good on ?

Or the existing power trying to stay in. Or something else all together.

[Martin4x4]

"Rotten to the core" is definitely right given Argentina's history of Dirty War, Assassination and false flag intrigue nothing should come as a surprise.

[hornetrider]

davepoth said:

If this plot thickened any more, it would be made of lead.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2...

So it seems that the recently "definitely-not-assassinated" prosecutor in Argentina had made out arrest warrants for Kirchner and the foreign minister Hector Timerman. Definitely nothing dodgy going on there at all.

Wowsers. Do the arrest warrants die with him? Sounds strange, that if they exist, they would not be acted upon by the dept.