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mcdjl
1,614 posts
64 months
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WhereamI said: ViperPict said: One word, three letters...
England wants it and needs it...
Another word, five letters...
England wants it and needs it... Guessing at oil - England needs oil but it doesn't have to be Scottish oil and we will soon have abundant supplies of our own shale gas. Five letters - water? There is no practical method for Scotland to export water, we survive without Scottish water now and will in the future. Or are you talking about something else? I was guessing oil as well but I'm lost for the other one. It can't be water: Skye is in drought to the point where the reservoir feeding the Talisker distillery has dried up and they're not producing.
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thinfourth2
23,609 posts
73 months
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mcdjl said: WhereamI said: ViperPict said: One word, three letters...
England wants it and needs it...
Another word, five letters...
England wants it and needs it... Guessing at oil - England needs oil but it doesn't have to be Scottish oil and we will soon have abundant supplies of our own shale gas. Five letters - water? There is no practical method for Scotland to export water, we survive without Scottish water now and will in the future. Or are you talking about something else? I was guessing oil as well but I'm lost for the other one. It can't be water: Skye is in drought to the point where the reservoir feeding the Talisker distillery has dried up and they're not producing. I guess power if you buy into the wind power fantasy that the SNP spout
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WhereamI
6,157 posts
86 months
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thinfourth2 said: mcdjl said: WhereamI said: ViperPict said: One word, three letters...
England wants it and needs it...
Another word, five letters...
England wants it and needs it... Guessing at oil - England needs oil but it doesn't have to be Scottish oil and we will soon have abundant supplies of our own shale gas. Five letters - water? There is no practical method for Scotland to export water, we survive without Scottish water now and will in the future. Or are you talking about something else? I was guessing oil as well but I'm lost for the other one. It can't be water: Skye is in drought to the point where the reservoir feeding the Talisker distillery has dried up and they're not producing. I guess power if you buy into the wind power fantasy that the SNP spout Maybe. Of course the problem being that much of England is closer to France and Continental Europe than it is to Scotland. Pretty much the only market for Scotland's power is England, yet we can also buy from elsewhere, it's always nice buying from a supplier that has no other customers, you can really screw the price down.
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Wombat3
5,192 posts
75 months
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mcdjl said: That said Scotland could do with having more spent on transport: the road surfaces in many places is appalling! I take it you havn't been to Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire then lately?  I was in the middle of Scotland a month ago, the roads through places like Crieff etc are like billiard tables in comparison to those that I use every day in the south east.
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mcdjl
1,614 posts
64 months
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Wombat3 said: I take it you havn't been to Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire then lately? I was in the middle of Scotland a month ago, the roads through places like Crieff etc are like billiard tables in comparison to those that I use every day in the south east. If you want to play that game lets continue, london, essex, leicetershire, nottinghamshire...bits of the whole of the UK really!
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Wombat3
5,192 posts
75 months
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mcdjl said: Wombat3 said: I take it you havn't been to Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire then lately? I was in the middle of Scotland a month ago, the roads through places like Crieff etc are like billiard tables in comparison to those that I use every day in the south east. If you want to play that game lets continue, london, essex, leicetershire, nottinghamshire...bits of the whole of the UK really! Exactly, Scotland is no more suffering from bad roads or is underfunded on road building/repairs than the rest of us. In the main,practical experience suggests they are far better up there on this but mostly because they don't have the volume of traffic to contend with & so the roads don't get the same battering. Its just circumstance, not policy.
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Caulkhead
4,938 posts
26 months
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Wombat3 said: mcdjl said: Wombat3 said: I take it you havn't been to Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire then lately? I was in the middle of Scotland a month ago, the roads through places like Crieff etc are like billiard tables in comparison to those that I use every day in the south east. If you want to play that game lets continue, london, essex, leicetershire, nottinghamshire...bits of the whole of the UK really! Exactly, Scotland is no more suffering from bad roads or is underfunded on road building/repairs than the rest of us. In the main,practical experience suggests they are far better up there on this but mostly because they don't have the volume of traffic to contend with & so the roads don't get the same battering. Its just circumstance, not policy. Aye, come to the Isle of Wight if you want bad roads - you can't get much further from Scotland!
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WhereamI
6,157 posts
86 months
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Responsibility for transport in Scotland is already devolved to Scotland, its nothing to do with Westminster.
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TheHeretic
68,171 posts
124 months
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WhereamI said: Responsibility for transport in Scotland is already devolved to Scotland, its nothing to do with Westminster. Ouch.
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ViperPict
8,448 posts
106 months
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TheHeretic said: WhereamI said: Responsibility for transport in Scotland is already devolved to Scotland, its nothing to do with Westminster. Ouch. And the SNP have recently got some major and long overdue road improved moved years ahead from the previous Labour governments's schedule. And the tram's were Labour's baby!!
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thinfourth2
23,609 posts
73 months
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ViperPict said: And the SNP have recently got some major and long overdue road improved moved years ahead from the previous Labour governments's schedule. And the tram's were Labour's baby!! But it is very very easy to spend money A lot harder to not spend it and be popular Hell even i could sit in holyrood and spend shiploads
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ViperPict
8,448 posts
106 months
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thinfourth2 said: ViperPict said: And the SNP have recently got some major and long overdue road improved moved years ahead from the previous Labour governments's schedule. And the tram's were Labour's baby!! But it is very very easy to spend money A lot harder to not spend it and be popular Hell even i could sit in holyrood and spend shiploads Dualling of the A9 is one of the more justifiable was of spending public money I say. Road's a f  king death trap.
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mcdjl
1,614 posts
64 months
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ViperPict said: Dualling of the A9 is one of the more justifiable was of spending public money I say. Road's a f king death trap. Getting people to obey the 'Use overtaking spaces to allow faster vehicles to pass' signs would be cheaper.....if it were possible 
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Edinburger
2,327 posts
37 months
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mcdjl said: ViperPict said: Dualling of the A9 is one of the more justifiable was of spending public money I say. Road's a f king death trap. Getting people to obey the 'Use overtaking spaces to allow faster vehicles to pass' signs would be cheaper.....if it were possible I disagree - the A9 is a death trap and should be dualled now. Yes some idiot drivers make silly manouveres, but it should be dual carriageway all the way from Perth to Inverness. I read recently that there are more deaths on the A9 every year than on every other road in Scotland put together. I travel to Inverness a few times most months and see all sorts of stupid driving mainly from the sheer frustration of that road. Having said that, on a nice day it's a great drive if you appreciate the views.
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BliarOut
53,511 posts
108 months
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WhereamI said: Responsibility for transport in Scotland is already devolved to Scotland, its nothing to do with Westminster. So this fantastic tram project in Edinburgh,. That's entirely down to this superb, utterly faultless, certainly far better than Westminster Scottish administration?
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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BliarOut said: So this fantastic tram project in Edinburgh,. That's entirely down to this superb, utterly faultless, certainly far better than Westminster Scottish administration? Not quite. It was a Labour job but there were so many poor decisions and terrible contracts written that it could only ever go badly. It is an utter disaster.
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doogz
18,721 posts
56 months
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Just spoken to the first person I know that's in favour of independence.
His main argument was that no-one else could have an opinion, because we hadn't met Alex Salmond. None of our opinions were valid because of this.
He then went onto advise us that in Parliament, no-one can touch him, because he's so clever, and all the rest of the politicians are all "millionaire numpties that have never had a real job before"
I wasn't aware there were people that stupid, just walking around among us.
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WhereamI
6,157 posts
86 months
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doogz said: all the rest of the politicians are all "millionaire numpties that have never had a real job before" And he thinks that Salmond has had a real job does he? Personally I'm not sure that being an energy economist counts.
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thinfourth2
23,609 posts
73 months
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Edinburger said: mcdjl said: ViperPict said: Dualling of the A9 is one of the more justifiable was of spending public money I say. Road's a f king death trap. Getting people to obey the 'Use overtaking spaces to allow faster vehicles to pass' signs would be cheaper.....if it were possible I disagree - the A9 is a death trap and should be dualled now. Yes some idiot drivers make silly manouveres, but it should be dual carriageway all the way from Perth to Inverness. I read recently that there are more deaths on the A9 every year than on every other road in Scotland put together. I travel to Inverness a few times most months and see all sorts of stupid driving mainly from the sheer frustration of that road. Having said that, on a nice day it's a great drive if you appreciate the views. Its magic money tree time again
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Edinburger
2,327 posts
37 months
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thinfourth2 said: Edinburger said: mcdjl said: ViperPict said: Dualling of the A9 is one of the more justifiable was of spending public money I say. Road's a f king death trap. Getting people to obey the 'Use overtaking spaces to allow faster vehicles to pass' signs would be cheaper.....if it were possible I disagree - the A9 is a death trap and should be dualled now. Yes some idiot drivers make silly manouveres, but it should be dual carriageway all the way from Perth to Inverness. I read recently that there are more deaths on the A9 every year than on every other road in Scotland put together. I travel to Inverness a few times most months and see all sorts of stupid driving mainly from the sheer frustration of that road. Having said that, on a nice day it's a great drive if you appreciate the views. Its magic money tree time again Why do you say that? Other than, of course, the reason that every time I say white you just have to say black. No one said anything about magic money. If you are the only living person in Scotland who thinks that the A9 doesn't need upgraded to a dual carriageway, then you're dafter than I thought.
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