Gove is the best troll ever...

[Halb]

elster said:

So she makes a profit for the public purse of around £15 million then.

That's pretty good.

Makes a profit how?

[thinfourth2]

Getragdogleg said:

bobbylondonuk said:

Here is a chance for the people of britain to make a showcase that will stand the test of style and time.

Paintings, woodwork, metal work, textiles, ship building, Design, branding, computer systems, cleanest most powerful new propulsion systems, top quality crew, tourist attraction. The best of British on display to the world. Understated, Elegant, Regal and Timeless classic style!!!!

Us British are a fking waste of space! This is not a boat for an old lady and her family to go on holidays....its a national asset that the world can only dream of. Any rich fool can buy a boat looking like a jet liner in the water...Can you ever build a royal yacht like the Britania? Even if you did...could you actually pull it off? never!

If there was a govt fund open to the public....id put a couple of hundred into it.

Ii hope we don't get a new Britannia, We would fk up the design horribly now, just look at the olympic logos and the sodding mascots, can you imagine what tacky bks would be penned ?

Besides, i believe we lack the ability to do a good job now, we rested on our laurels too long.

I find it a huge shame I feel this way.

We you are wrong

We could make the best yacht in the world without a shadow of a doudt

And we should have one after teflon tony binned it because he didn't get one

[Halb]

thinfourth2 said:

We you are wrong

We could make the best yacht in the world without a shadow of a doudt

And we should have one after teflon tony binned it because he didn't get one

The one pictured above does look very nice.

[elster]

Halb said:

elster said:

So she makes a profit for the public purse of around £15 million then.

That's pretty good.

Makes a profit how?

Crown estate. The argument that republic use is it is the countries, and therefore it doesn't count is not quite true.

[Halb]

elster said:

Halb said:

elster said:

So she makes a profit for the public purse of around £15 million then.

That's pretty good.

Makes a profit how?

Crown estate. The argument that republic use is it is the countries, and therefore it doesn't count is not quite true.

It wasn't Republic that came up with it. It's true since The Crown own it. To say that 'she' (EW) gives a profit to us is not quite true.
http://www.andywightman.com/docs/civil_list_crown_...

[elster]

Halb said:

elster said:

Halb said:

elster said:

So she makes a profit for the public purse of around £15 million then.

That's pretty good.

Makes a profit how?

Crown estate. The argument that republic use is it is the countries, and therefore it doesn't count is not quite true.

It wasn't Republic that came up with it. It's true since The Crown own it. To say that 'she' (EW) gives a profit to us is not quite true.
http://www.andywightman.com/docs/civil_list_crown_...

Indeed the crown does own it. You do realise what the crown is?

If the Queen is removed as head of state she can still remain Monarch, as she is in a lot of the commonwealth.

[HundredthIdiot]

Petty squabbling about debatable small numbers misses the point.

Even assuming the other side is right about the numbers, then if you like the idea of the monarchy then the cost is worth it, and if you hate the idea of the monarchy then the revenue isn't worth it.

I personally believe that there are bigger constitutional fish to fry, but notwithstanding that the current setup (where the Royals are basically born into servitude) is inhumane. Who would want to be born a paparazzi/kidnap/terrorist target?

As for the ship, does the UK have the shipbuilding capacity? If not then it smells like either yes-ministereque subsidy nonsense or an outsourcing job.

Anyway, the simplest solution is for it to be built with donations from royalists.

[Halb]

elster said:

Halb said:

elster said:

Halb said:

elster said:

So she makes a profit for the public purse of around £15 million then.

That's pretty good.

Makes a profit how?

Crown estate. The argument that republic use is it is the countries, and therefore it doesn't count is not quite true.

It wasn't Republic that came up with it. It's true since The Crown own it. To say that 'she' (EW) gives a profit to us is not quite true.
http://www.andywightman.com/docs/civil_list_crown_...

Indeed the crown does own it. You do realise what the crown is?

If the Queen is removed as head of state she can still remain Monarch, as she is in a lot of the commonwealth.

Yes I do. It's not the HoS/Sovereign/Monarch. That's why what you said about 'profit' is not true.
"The Crown is a corporation sole that in the Commonwealth realms and any provincial or state sub-divisions thereof represents the legal embodiment of governance, whether executive, legislative, or judicial. It evolved first in the United Kingdom as a separation of the literal crown and property of the nation state from the person and personal property of the monarch."
There are any variables if EW was removed as HoS. She would still be monarch of those other places I suppose. I am just dealing with what happens to the revenues of the CE here.
"During Her late Majesty’s reign comparisons were frequently made to show that the annual produce of the Revenues surrendered by her exceeded the amount of Her Civil List annuity, with the inference that the public profited at the expense of the Crown. This inference has been based on the assumption that the Revenues belong to the Sovereign entirely for the expenses of the Royal Household and for private enjoyment, and that any surrender of them for the benefit of the public is purely an act of Royal grace and favour."
http://www.andywightman.com/docs/civil_list_crown_...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_crown

Edited by Halb on Tuesday 17th January 22:21