diesel hits new record high

[MilnerR]

ExChrispy Porker said:

Is there any cost advantage to running a diesel car at the moment then?
Increased MPG but increased cost must mean that there is not, I would have thought.

The difference in price is about 7%, my e39 530i averages about 25mpg, a guy at work has a e39 530D that averages about 40mpg. Diesels are still cheaper in terms of fuel, but then again my work mate paid about £1500 more for a almost identical spec and mileage BMW. Not sure about maintenance costs, anyone care to comment?

[Gonewest]

next week...diesel is going up 3-5 ppl.Ul..2-3 ppl

[Dixie68]

crankedup said:

Can't see what all the fuss is about, cheaper fuel would be good but with cars now much more economical on fuel then even 15 years ago it seems to balance out the added cost of a tankful. Take increased wages and inflation into consideration and it not so bad.

Your wages have increased? Mine haven't in 2 years

ETA: I actually pay less for my petrol now, but only because I got fed up with the amount of money I was paying for it and moved closer to work, so in effect the constant raising of the price has resulted in the government/oil companies getting less money from me than before. I'm sure others have cut back too.

Edited by Dixie68 on Saturday 18th February 01:00

[Haggleburyfinius]

What worries me as a petrol head is that we seem to have a generation (current 17-25 year olds) who do not see driving as a god given right! In fact, they don't seem that interested at all!!!!!

I hardly know anyone in this category who isn't from a wealthy background who has even passed their test, let alone runs a car.

Perhaps it is because I live in a City and my data is skewed but still...

[Composite Guru]

Haggleburyfinius said:

What worries me as a petrol head is that we seem to have a generation (current 17-25 year olds) who do not see driving as a god given right! In fact, they don't seem that interested at all!!!!!

I hardly know anyone in this category who isn't from a wealthy background who has even passed their test, let alone runs a car.

Perhaps it is because I live in a City and my data is skewed but still...

That's because a standard young person doesnt want to pay £5k+ for insurance and £50+ for a tank of petrol.
I used to be well into my cars and all of them have been performance based. I now drive an Eco box because I'm fed up of being raped for rediculous VED and fuel prices.
I just wish that someone could get this hydrogen replacement on the market but the oil cartel/ mafia won't let it happen. Greed is what it's all about!!

Edited by Composite Guru on Saturday 18th February 08:49

[uk_vette]

CoopR said:

Just filled up in Dubai - less than 30p/litre

Sorry, couldn't resist

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Thats a good price,

61 pence a liter in China

vette

[Engineer1]

Incredibly scewed supply and demand, for most people the car is the main or even only choice for commuting to work in a reasonable time scale at reasonable cost. I commute to the other side of Birmingham and it takes 45mins in the car the train takes 45mins but the station is a 20min drive and the train would get me to work either 40 mins before my start or 10 mins after.

What high fuel bills mean is that my spend on other stuff is reduced I am a lot less likely to go for a drive over to somewhere for pleasure.

[Composite Guru]

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[TimJMS]

CoopR said:

Just filled up in Dubai - less than 30p/litre

Sorry, couldn't resist

What was it 5 years ago? Hazy anecdote alert, but I'm sure a frend of mine was paying only 10p / litre back then. If true, you've suffered a 300% price rise in half a decade.

[Spitfire2]

jonah35 said:

Spot on, my car used to do 23mpg now it does 55 mpg. Fuel could double and ill still be better off

Snap.

I worked out a while back that my fuel costs have only just caught up with what my old car was costing in 2002 - ignoring inflation.

[Funkateer]

A diesel car is the only choice if you travel more than a certain mileage per year (12000 if I recall correctly), much of this on motorways and trunk roads. I average about 26000!

There's little in it if you do short journeys round town all the time.

Speaking as someone who used to drive normally aspirated diesel vans with work, modern common rail turbo diesels are lovely to drive! Perhaps I need to consider a petrol weekend car!

[JagLover]

Randy Winkman said:

I thought Labour were utterly useless.

The PH (relative) silence on fuel prices is a mystery though.

The Tories only action on fuel duty has been to cut it by 1p a litre, any rise has been due to world oil prices so it is rather pointless to blame this government, hence the silence I imagine.

[Noisy]

Typical just as I bought a diesel car

Still geting double the MPG out of my 330Cd compared to the 2.0 petrol Alfa though.

JagLover YHM!

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

Randy Winkman said:

I thought Labour were utterly useless.

The PH (relative) silence on fuel prices is a mystery though.

The Tories only action on fuel duty has been to cut it by 1p a litre, any rise has been due to world oil prices so it is rather pointless to blame this government, hence the silence I imagine.

Another mystery solved, I'm lovin' it.

[crankedup]

roachcoach said:

EFA

We all have a choice as to what car(s) we enjoy owing and driving, I cannot afford a F40 but I don't blame it on the fuel price. Just a case of living within ones own means. Look at the Caterhams, all sizes with vastly differing spec's to suit all budgets, your not saying they are boring are you?

[Willy Nilly]

JagLover said:

Randy Winkman said:

I thought Labour were utterly useless.

The PH (relative) silence on fuel prices is a mystery though.

The Tories only action on fuel duty has been to cut it by 1p a litre, any rise has been due to world oil prices so it is rather pointless to blame this government, hence the silence I imagine.

By far the biggest chunk of the cost of fuel is tax. They could half the price of fuel quite easily at the next budget. They just keep blaming OPEC.

Edited by Willy Nilly on Saturday 18th February 12:17

[Mr Happy]

Some garages aren't helping matters though, I pulled into a Total station yesterday to fill up and of the three pumps they had, only one did regular diesel.

All three of the pumps had that Total Excellium Diesel on, at 159.9p/litre...

Way to catch out the unwary! The regular diesel was 143.9p/litre.

The highest price I've seen recently for regular diesel was 151.9p/litre although that was at a motorway services and thus is to be expected.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Hehe I just checked my old Skoda out on my Road Trip app on my phone and the first fill up I did with it towards the end of 2009.... £1.06/L for diesel. It was a steady rise up from there!

[M3333]

CoopR said:

Just filled up in Dubai - less than 30p/litre

Sorry, couldn't resist

I have just been to Dubai and Thailand - how i feel the pain back in the UK.

In Thailand i could go and have a full freshly cooked meal and drinks for about £1.80. People were also happy, friendly and chatty.

Been back in the UK for 48hours and had enough all ready!

Visited the Burj Khalifa while in Dubai - Impressive stuff.

[Randy Winkman]

JagLover said:

Randy Winkman said:

I thought Labour were utterly useless.

The PH (relative) silence on fuel prices is a mystery though.

The Tories only action on fuel duty has been to cut it by 1p a litre, any rise has been due to world oil prices so it is rather pointless to blame this government, hence the silence I imagine.

But I thought that the majority PH view was the Government should massively cut fuel tax to put more money in peoples' pockets, help them get to work, cut freight transport costs and stimulate the economy? What happened to all that?