Scargill, still causing trouble
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crankedup said:
Bloody good bit of historical imaginary.
Indeed I do recall the workers co-operative, but know of very little as to how the arrangement worked. Like all of the British motorcycle industry the owners of the businesses sat back on their laurals and refused to invest and develop the products - welcome Japanese motorcycles. No I do not exclude workers from the responsibility toward their employers of the time, many mis-guided and, ultimately, paid a very heavy price for that. Great to see how Triumph have now flourished and have become a highly regarded motorcycle manufacturer. My pal who lives in S.France, his Son has a new 'Trumpet' and the interest that the French bike enthusiasts show regarding that bike is great, and its made in Britain.
The success Triumph are enjoying on the race circuit is fantastic, my lad was going into the Triumph Triple series at one point but his job got in the way of his race ambitions on that occasion. I will look forward to perhaps having a read of your work when its complete, Motorcycle News? Good luck with it.
And its good to get away from arguing for a while.
Nice one! Keep you posted! Indeed I do recall the workers co-operative, but know of very little as to how the arrangement worked. Like all of the British motorcycle industry the owners of the businesses sat back on their laurals and refused to invest and develop the products - welcome Japanese motorcycles. No I do not exclude workers from the responsibility toward their employers of the time, many mis-guided and, ultimately, paid a very heavy price for that. Great to see how Triumph have now flourished and have become a highly regarded motorcycle manufacturer. My pal who lives in S.France, his Son has a new 'Trumpet' and the interest that the French bike enthusiasts show regarding that bike is great, and its made in Britain.
The success Triumph are enjoying on the race circuit is fantastic, my lad was going into the Triumph Triple series at one point but his job got in the way of his race ambitions on that occasion. I will look forward to perhaps having a read of your work when its complete, Motorcycle News? Good luck with it.
And its good to get away from arguing for a while.
PS Edward Turner, who designed the original Bonneville, and was chairman of Triumph, went to Japan in 1960 after he'd essentially retired from the BSA group who then owned Triumph. He produced a report on the Japanese bike industry and the threat it posed. He warned of the consequences of the head in the sand attitude prevailing in the British industry, particularly BSA.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Yi4sPHUiTiUC&am...
See page 112 onwards, it's quite enlightening and mentions the Japanese jobs for life. Of course, nobody took any notice in this country, Jap bikes were rubbish weren't they.
Edited by Andy Zarse on Wednesday 22 February 16:00
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whoami said:
He's due on BBC news live in a few minutes. Wonder what he will say? 
DonkeyApple said:
whoami said:
He's due on BBC news live in a few minutes. Wonder what he will say? LOL
Soovy said:
DonkeyApple said:
whoami said:
He's due on BBC news live in a few minutes. Wonder what he will say? LOL
I think he will also go on to admit that he became rich on the back of the miners he exploited for political gain and be giving all his wealth over to appropriate charities.
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