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ge0rge
1,001 posts
74 months
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Theyre already here.. Just watch homeland 
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: I agree somewhat; however, I believe much of what you describe is tribal/cultural as much as religion. I've past caring, to be honest. Their religion is used to justify their tribal, f  ked up ways. If they want that, have at it. Leave them to it, and let them live in the squalor that their beliefs will bring them. Agreed.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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ge0rge said: Theyre already here.. Just watch homeland Actually, they are.
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TheHeretic
68,169 posts
124 months
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Jimbeaux said: Actually, they are. Absolutely... <Points to Rick Santorum>
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Actually, they are. Absolutely... <Points to Rick Santorum> Comparing him or anyone else here to those idiots is like pointing to the Queen Mary and an SUV and proclaiming that they both get bad mileage.
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TheHeretic
68,169 posts
124 months
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Jimbeaux said: Comparing him or anyone else here to those idiots is like pointing to the Queen Mary and an SUV and proclaiming that they both get bad mileage. I agree... differing levels of intolerance. You know he wanted to put a ban on gay marriage in the constitution. Now as you like your state laws, and not federal ones, even you, I think, can see that as above and beyond intolerance.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Comparing him or anyone else here to those idiots is like pointing to the Queen Mary and an SUV and proclaiming that they both get bad mileage. I agree... differing levels of intolerance. You know he wanted to put a ban on gay marriage in the constitution. Now as you like your state laws, and not federal ones, even you, I think, can see that as above and beyond intolerance. Of course. That is rhetoric; nobody will pass that. That is state business that is also protected in that same Constitution. 
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TheHeretic
68,169 posts
124 months
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Jimbeaux said: Of course. That is rhetoric; nobody will pass that. That is state business that is also protected in that same Constitution. Tell that to Ricky boy.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Of course. That is rhetoric; nobody will pass that. That is state business that is also protected in that same Constitution. Tell that to Ricky boy. No need; he will not be the nominee.
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mko9
459 posts
81 months
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thinfourth2 said: It just needs a small change in procedures to a procedure more acceptable to the locals
Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner If you build a man a fire, he will be warm through the night. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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mko9 said: thinfourth2 said: It just needs a small change in procedures to a procedure more acceptable to the locals
Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner If you build a man a fire, he will be warm through the night. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life. Daaamn! 
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Raja
3,438 posts
104 months
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I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave.
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Victor McDade
3,679 posts
51 months
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Raja said: I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave. The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out.
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menguin
2,907 posts
90 months
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Victor McDade said: The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out. Many potential terrorist attacks have been caused by our presence. Where do we draw the line?
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dmulally
2,773 posts
49 months
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Raja said: I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave. Geographical presence aside we are still there because although AQ skipped across the border to Pakistan a long time ago, the angry bees are still flying around. Who is actually firing those bees off is a bit muddied as the locals have been fighting Johnny Foreigner since day dot. A bit hard to tell who is a local defending his patch and a jihad freedom fighter from another country. They all look the same when blown up. Iraq I feel was more rich old guys serving their own purposes (George W finishing the job his old man started and Dick Cheney - Halliburton for example) but the ghan is a whole other mess. I know a little of the people there and they will never change. They are more likely to kill to stop their only goat from being stolen by the next village, than for the frivolous western issues such as education for women and democracy. We dont need to understand them but we need to admit that they are simply different and leave them to it. Throwing good money after bad it is. Money that nobody has.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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Victor McDade said: Raja said: I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave. The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out. I agree with this approach.
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speedy_thrills
5,667 posts
112 months
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Could Afghanistan "government" support it's own military needs without direct foreign military assistance or would it be a Vietnam situation of gradual collapse? Is there the opportunity for a partition in Afghanistan between the Taliban controlled area and the rest of Afghanistan?
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Countdown
6,358 posts
65 months
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speedy_thrills said: Could Afghanistan "government" support it's own military needs without direct foreign military assistance or would it be a Vietnam situation of gradual collapse? Is there the opportunity for a partition in Afghanistan between the Taliban controlled area and the rest of Afghanistan? No chance at all. The Taliban are unified partly by their fundamentalist religion and partly by shared Tribal identity (most of them are Pathans). If there was one single uniting factor amongst the opposition they would have a chance (especially with ISAF support. There isn't, and the problem with Pathans is they can be very committed.
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TheHeretic
68,169 posts
124 months
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Allahu akbar, apparently. Apparently God sits up in his sky bit, looking down, and seemingly he is quite happy his little band of f ked up, ignorant, squallorific tribes people are doing this sort of thing, killing, and rioting, and apparently, he doesn't mind at all. In fact, as far as I can see, they seem to be doing Gods will. Religion... So stupid, even the dumb can join in. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1330621949
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carmonk
7,910 posts
56 months
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TheHeretic said: Allahu akbar, apparently. Apparently God sits up in his sky bit, looking down, and seemingly he is quite happy his little band of f ked up, ignorant, squallorific tribes people are doing this sort of thing, killing, and rioting, and apparently, he doesn't mind at all. In fact, as far as I can see, they seem to be doing Gods will. Religion... So stupid, even the dumb can join in. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1330621949Egypt, then Libya and now Syria. Will the idiot world governments ever learn not to help these degenerate savages whose only aim is to destroy civilisation?
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