Catholic church oppose gay marriage

Catholic church oppose gay marriage

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ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Leaving aside the insults, where is your logical (or other) explanation of why two men should be allowed to marry but three men should not?
I don't see why the gender of the people is relevant to the question. Why should two people be allowed to marry but not three?

My answer would be what it has been throughout this thread - society defines marriage. With the wide acceptance of homosexuality as genetic rather than a "lifestyle" choice and the realisation that it is harmless, society is changing to accept that marriage is the union of two people rather than the union of a man and a woman. Polygamy is not (yet, perhaps wink) accepted as "normal" in our society. If polygamy becomes socially acceptable in the UK, I'd expect marriage law to change to reflect that.

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Marf said:
Can we ignore Comrade Ozzie's nonsensical "point"? Responding to it only lends it unworthy credence smile
paperbag Sorry wink

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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No worries, I just hope everyone can see his "point" for what it is, obfuscatory nonsense designed to detract away from discussion of the original point.

Standard MO for Ozwald.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Colonial said:
No. Your point is not obvious. It is a logical fallacy and is treated with the scorn and contempt it deserves.

The same pathetic, tired little cliche....
Leaving aside the insults, where is your logical (or other) explanation of why two men should be allowed to marry but three men should not?
Can anyone in UK enter a legally acceptable polygamous marriage?

No....don't think so. Therefore law is not discriminatory.

Can some people get married legally whilst others are refused??

Yup sure can....so law is therefore discriminatory.

We're also told by the same moral arbiters (the Church) that both are wrong, yet the Bible allows polygamous marriage. Hypocrisy all round really eh?

But I'm sure the Church would be bang on your side Ozzie if you seriously wished to begin a campaign for religious polygamous marriages as the Bible supports them. So if the Bible is the absolute word of God, then why isn't the Church already undertaking polygamous marriages or at least wanting them?? Why dont you ask a vicar or bishop and let us know your findings?

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Leaving aside the insults, where is your logical (or other) explanation of why two men should be allowed to marry but three men should not?
Because the UK legally condones unions between two people. Bizarrely, those unions have different names depending on the genders of the people and the proposal is to correct that discrepancy so that two people can marry without prejudice.

Unions between 3 or more people are not legal in the UK, regardless of the genders of the persons.

Edit: I see djstevec beat me to it. Oh well.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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JonRB said:
Edit: I see djstevec beat me to it. Oh well.
Repetition might get the point across! thumbup

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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djstevec said:
JonRB said:
Edit: I see djstevec beat me to it. Oh well.
Repetition might get the point across! thumbup
We can live in hope!

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Leaving aside the insults, where is your logical (or other) explanation of why two men should be allowed to marry but three men should not?
I don't care how many consenting adults of whatever gender, race or sporting preference do in their spare time.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Watching episode 6 of the last series of The Sopranos tonight and T references 'that senator sanatorium', that if gays are allowed to continue everyone will end up fking dogs.biggrin

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Got to love today's Daily Mash...

Church agrees to continue marrying obviously gay men to women


Gay marriage; OK if it’s to a heterosexual person of opposite gender in heartbreakingly sad circumstances, confirms Church of England.


(Source: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news-in-pictures/new...)

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Now it's the Church of England's turn to tie itself in knots over this issue.

telegraph said:
The Church of England's crucial vote on gay marriage has been thrown into doubt after the Bishop of Coventry admitted he accidentally voted against the report and several others may have made the same mistake.

The Right Reverend Dr Christopher Cocksworth apologised for the mistake last night, which he said was because of "a moment of distraction and some confusion over the voting process".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/16/bishop-apologises-accidentally-pressing-wrong-button-crucial/

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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Ironic name in a few ways bearing in mind the subject smile

CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Now it's the Church of England's turn to tie itself in knots over this issue.
not really. They all evolve as times change to retain their power. Funny that.