Council tax robbers
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Countdown said:
turbobloke said:
That consideration is to do with leaving friends and family behind, not simple economics.
My Grandad spent about 20 years away from his family. My dad spent a good 8-10 years away from my mum for the same reason. Most choices require sacrifices.
turbobloke said:
Countdown said:
turbobloke said:
That consideration is to do with leaving friends and family behind, not simple economics.
My Grandad spent about 20 years away from his family. My dad spent a good 8-10 years away from my mum for the same reason. Most choices require sacrifices.My opinion are rather skewed as i live in an area with one of the highest council taxes around London. Just to break with tradition and give you an idea of the fiscal damage inflicted upon us: I worked out that my rates (including water), car tax i.e. fixed outgoings are a staggering 3.3k a year! And that's before you add in any variable bills which i try keep down to a minimum. If i take Countdown's philosophy, 275 per month to live on the outskirts of one of the greatest cities in the world isn't too bad. The thing is, it used to be much much less .. and i know .. just know that most of it is being pissed away on 5-a-day diversity coordinators and benefits scum!!
Edited by fido on Monday 19th March 10:35
fido said:
My opinion are rather skewed as i live in an area with one of the highest council taxes around London. Just to break with tradition and give you an idea of the fiscal damage inflicted upon us: I worked out that my rates (including water), car tax i.e. fixed outgoings are a staggering 3.3k a year! And that's before you add in any variable bills which i try keep down to a minimum. If i take Countdown's philosophy, 275 per month to live on the outskirts of one of the greatest cities in the world isn't too bad. The thing is, it used to be much much less .. and i know .. just know that most of it is being pissed away on 5-a-day diversity coordinators and benefits scum!!
just to cheer you up - water is provided to you by the private sector - yay 
Steffan said:
You are the mug who works his nuts off to ensue the unemployed can live in a lifestyle you can only dream of. That is your role in life.
Not good. But factual
Except it isn't is it.Not good. But factual
The unemployed don't live a lifestyle that anyone would dream off, except perhaps in the made up world of the Daily Mail.
fido said:
Countdown said:
just to cheer you up - water is provided to you by the private sector - yay
Sadly I pay the rateable value. So basically get raped by the private sector, whilst fellating council officialdom. It's a nice warm place to be. 
Devil2575 said:
Steffan said:
You are the mug who works his nuts off to ensue the unemployed can live in a lifestyle you can only dream of. That is your role in life.
Not good. But factual
Except it isn't is it.Not good. But factual
The unemployed don't live a lifestyle that anyone would dream off, except perhaps in the made up world of the Daily Mail.
Article in The Sun said:
Afghan single mum Toorpakai Saeidi and her seven kids cost the taxpayer 170,000 a year.
She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
For eveybody else who can consider the information as well as the source, try this though the rent on that one is 5k (per month) cheaper.She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
turbobloke said:
Devil2575 said:
Steffan said:
You are the mug who works his nuts off to ensue the unemployed can live in a lifestyle you can only dream of. That is your role in life.
Not good. But factual
Except it isn't is it.Not good. But factual
The unemployed don't live a lifestyle that anyone would dream off, except perhaps in the made up world of the Daily Mail.
Article in The Sun said:
Afghan single mum Toorpakai Saeidi and her seven kids cost the taxpayer 170,000 a year.
She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
For eveybody else who can consider the information as well as the source, try this though the rent on this one is 5k (per month) cheaper.She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
I knew there was a reason why I generally avoided the N,P&E Forum...
Why would I care what the sun writes?
Cherry picking examples where families with huge numbers of kids get seemingly large benefits payouts is a favourite of the tabloid press. It's a good way of manipulating the reader into thinking that it's common and typical of how people on benefits live.
Looking at that DM story in particular, the bulk of the benefits she recieves pays for the house. She then gets 15000 a year on top of that. That 15k to pay for everything else presumably?
Take off your mortgage payment from your earnings and then consider if you would be envious of someone who lives on 15k a year?
Then consider how far that 15k will go with a family that size. The food bill must be half of that!
Where's the lifestyle we are dreaming of? The nice house? Ok perhaps, but my lifestyle has little to do with my house. I wouldn't be envious of a man who owned an F430 if he lived in a cardboard box in the same way I don't dream of this womans lifestyle because despite having a nice house in a nice area she is still looking after a large family on 15k a year. She has no car and she shops in Argos!!
Yes, really living the dream
Cheap TVs and Argos leather furniture
These extreme examples are also the very upper end of what the unemployed get. 99.9% of people on benefits live a run down housing in areas that you and me would never live.
I'm not saying that housing people at such great expesne is right, but to suggest that the unemployed live a life that tax payers could only dream off is just uninformed drivel.
Devil2575 said:
turbobloke said:
Devil2575 said:
Steffan said:
You are the mug who works his nuts off to ensue the unemployed can live in a lifestyle you can only dream of. That is your role in life.
Not good. But factual
Except it isn't is it.Not good. But factual
The unemployed don't live a lifestyle that anyone would dream off, except perhaps in the made up world of the Daily Mail.
Article in The Sun said:
Afghan single mum Toorpakai Saeidi and her seven kids cost the taxpayer 170,000 a year.
She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
For eveybody else who can consider the information as well as the source, try this though the rent on this one is 5k (per month) cheaper.She is still lording it up in a 1.2million mansion, which costs her local council over 12,000 a month to rent, two years after being exposed by us.
Most of the whopping sum comes from housing allowances. The home in Acton, West London, boasts seven bedrooms and two kitchens. The family said they felt like they'd won the Lotto.
There's nothing like a personal angle to reveal a stunning lack of much else.
Meanwhile, hopefully you enjoyed The Sun and tolerated The Mail
turbobloke said:
Hi.
There's nothing like a personal angle to reveal a stunning lack of much else.
Meanwhile, hopefully you enjoyed The Sun and tolerated The Mail
Comming from the king of personal attacks that's rich.There's nothing like a personal angle to reveal a stunning lack of much else.
Meanwhile, hopefully you enjoyed The Sun and tolerated The Mail
How about you address my points?
Do you consider 15k a year, accomodation aside, to be a lifestyle taxpayers can only dream of?
Do you consider buying cheap TVs and Argos furniture something that taxpayers can only dream of?
Do you think that the examples cited by the Sun and the Mail are typical or exceptional?
Also, you only seem to be concerned with attacking the source if it's one that supports your view. You are happy to rubbish sources when you don't agree with the content.
Not supprising really given that people with strong views tend to ignore anything that doesn't suit them and cherry pick the stuff that does
BTW, I don't read a newspaper and if i did I would not be the sun
Devil2575 said:
turbobloke said:
Hi.
There's nothing like a personal angle to reveal a stunning lack of much else.
Meanwhile, hopefully you enjoyed The Sun and tolerated The Mail
Comming from the king of personal attacks that's rich.There's nothing like a personal angle to reveal a stunning lack of much else.
Meanwhile, hopefully you enjoyed The Sun and tolerated The Mail
If you mean that I was prepared to act in self defence, prior to the saintly standards now required on the heavily modded climate threads - modding needed because of the low standards of posting from true believers who will engage in personal abuse at the drop of a thermometer - then that's only fair, but it remains historical and I'm surprised you've been around long enough to remember.
It's also a tad hypocritical, since you managed to start out on that road without provocation...on that basis if you'd been on the receiving end of what I got in the past you would probably be banned by now.
Devil2575 said:
Still not willing to address my points I see.
Mistaken identity? No, i've read enough of your posts to last me a lifetime
I'll leave you to look in wonder at the woman with 6 kids who lives the life you can only dream of, on 15k...
Apart from the fact that you have no knowledge of my lifestyle, you are welcome to continue in this vein for as long as it amuses you.Mistaken identity? No, i've read enough of your posts to last me a lifetime
I'll leave you to look in wonder at the woman with 6 kids who lives the life you can only dream of, on 15k...
What point is there in re-addressing content that has been covered already, you've added nothing much except a personal angle and of the rest, any good bits weren't original and any original bits weren't good.
Council tax remains high in relation to the poor and declining levels of service it's meant to pay for, nothing you or I can post will change that.
turbobloke said:
from true believers who will engage in personal abuse at the drop of a thermometer -
Is this supposed to be ironic?You accuse people of personal abuse and in the same sentence refer to them in a derogatory way
I've been around here a few years and I have read a lot of old posts.
turbobloke said:
Apart from the fact that you have no knowledge of my lifestyle,
I can see what cars you own/have owned which gives a small indication Whether what I wrote was covered before matters not. I read something that was rubbish and I responded.
None of the stuff in these threads really matters anyway. No one in any position of power actually listens...
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