Sunday Trading Laws... Beginning of the End?

[Mojooo]

Sunday Trading thing seems like an ideal issue for a referendum.

[rover 623gsi]

even the shop owners aren't that keen on the idea....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19311429

Sainsbury's boss has attacked government plans to make temporarily extended Sunday trading hours permanent.

Sainsbury's chief executive, Justin King, said: "Maintaining Sunday's special status has great merit".

It is not a 'magic answer' to the UK's economic problems, he added in a letter to the Sunday Telegraph newspaper.

[0000]

I've only heard this from Sainsburys amongst the major retailers, do they have ties to the Labour party, why is no one else as vocal?

I can't think that John Lewis will be so set against it after the last few weeks.

Edited by 0000 on Sunday 19th August 22:37

[98elise]

rover 623gsi said:

even the shop owners aren't that keen on the idea....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19311429

Sainsbury's boss has attacked government plans to make temporarily extended Sunday trading hours permanent.

Sainsbury's chief executive, Justin King, said: "Maintaining Sunday's special status has great merit".

It is not a 'magic answer' to the UK's economic problems, he added in a letter to the Sunday Telegraph newspaper.

Its not mandatory.

[Murph7355]

98elise said:

Its not mandatory.

A little known fact it would seem.

But then they will be "forced" to open to keep up with their competitors. 2-faced bandits.

[rover 623gsi]

hasn't anyone on here ever heard of 'the tragedy of the commons'???

[Funk]

0000 said:

I've only heard this from Sainsburys amongst the major retailers, do they have ties to the Labour party, why is no one else as vocal?

I can't think that John Lewis will be so set against it after the last few weeks.

Edited by 0000 on Sunday 19th August 22:37

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-174562/Sainsbury-gives-Labour-2-5m.html

Massive ties to Labour. Millions of them in fact.

[BlackLabel]

bbcnews said:

Government plans to relax Sunday trading laws in England and Wales are facing defeat in the House of Commons.

The SNP has told the BBC and the Guardian the party has decided to vote against the changes amid fears it could drive down Scottish workers' wages.

With other opposition MPs expected to join forces with some 20 Tory rebels, the plans will struggle to pass.

Ministers are said to be considering whether the proposals might have to be delayed or even dropped.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34772708

[Rude-boy]

Deeply unhappy about this.

I am ambivalent on the change to Sunday Trading laws but I resent the Scottish Nats telling us what we can and can't do in E&W.

As predicted their 'promise' not to stick their fingers in with E&W politics has proven to be a false one with them repeatedly finding a reason as to why they should break that promise at every turn.

I wish the Union to remain standing but I do not wish to be told what we can and can not do in E&W by the Scottish. Fair enough on issues that directly affect the whole of the Union but not E&W issues.

Bunch of spineless goons.

[Moonhawk]

Rude-boy said:

As predicted their 'promise' not to stick their fingers in with E&W politics has proven to be a false one with them repeatedly finding a reason as to why they should break that promise at every turn.

Well the SNP are hardly famous for being truthful or transparent are they.

They have a single minded agenda and will do or say pretty much anything to fulfil it.

[Mojooo]

This was a way to introduce Sunday Trading in a pathetic way 0 are they really suggesting you could have Sunday Trading in Westminster but not in Camden - clearly every council will have been pressured to do it straight away.

At least have the balls to introduce it nationally at once.

[Mr_B]

I quite liked it when virtually everything was closed on a Sunday.

[gofasterrosssco]

Rude-boy said:

Deeply unhappy about this.

I am ambivalent on the change to Sunday Trading laws but I resent the Scottish Nats telling us what we can and can't do in E&W.

As predicted their 'promise' not to stick their fingers in with E&W politics has proven to be a false one with them repeatedly finding a reason as to why they should break that promise at every turn.

I wish the Union to remain standing but I do not wish to be told what we can and can not do in E&W by the Scottish. Fair enough on issues that directly affect the whole of the Union but not E&W issues.

Bunch of spineless goons.

And that's one of the primary aims of the SNP's "glorious 55" - to pi55 off non-Scottish voters sufficient to lend support proposal like EVEL which are ultimately damaging to the concept of the Union. Likewise the vote on fox-hunting.

These are tactical votes that really have no or very little actual affect on Scotland, but are designed to push the Tory's further down the path bringing in restrictions (many of them attempting to rebalance the current devolution in the UK) that can then be spun in Scotland as anti-Scottish.

Its also almost completely political price free for them, as they are only represented in Scotland.

[wolves_wanderer]

If they are saying "English and Welsh" issues like this affect Scotland then surely any powers in this area devolved are pointless so should be returned to Westminster immediately. The same goes with fox hunting and any other issues that the SNP are indicating by their actions should be decided at a UK level.

[Halb]

Mr_B said:

I quite liked it when virtually everything was closed on a Sunday.

Same.
But thank fk the telly has changed. I was fairly young, but a Sunday of fking Christian music, Brian Walden and lab technicians who looked like they still lived in the 70's was enough for me.

[Funk]

It's time to bring the UK out of the dark ages regarding Sunday trading. Let them open up and compete with the internet; I can buy anything I want at any time on a Sunday, as long as it's not in a shop. Crazy.

Also agree about the Scottish tail wagging the dog, needs to stop. If English shops want to open longer on Sunday what on earth does that have to do with Scotland?

[JustinF]

I'm glad it's being defeated, Supermarkets have destroyed small independent traders. Sunday trading is a final competitive edge that they retain.

[Einion Yrth]

Halb said:

Same.
I was fairly young, but a Sunday of fking Christian music, Brian Walden and lab technicians who looked like they still lived in the 70's was enough for me.

Surely that was the 70s.

[Halb]

Einion Yrth said:

Halb said:

Same.
I was fairly young, but a Sunday of fking Christian music, Brian Walden and lab technicians who looked like they still lived in the 70's was enough for me.

Surely that was the 70s.

It persisted into the 80s for a bit, I recall it!
Thank goodness I loved books.

[JagLover]

Rather than talking of small shops etc, who would probably benefit more from rates and parking reforms rather than restraints of trade.

Can anyone say why, in principle, Sunday should be any different to any other day in the week?. IMO it is an example of how once a petty rule or regulation is introduced a legion of defenders spring up to say why it can never be removed.